Hybrid Annuities have too many moving parts… Says Who?

October 26, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

What makes a Hybrid Annuity different from a Fixed Annuity? Answer: index strategies, an income rider, and the contractual **guarantees associated with the income rider.

What makes a Hybrid or Index Annuity better than a standard fixed annuity with an income rider? Answer: the opportunity to participate in the potential upside of index gains that can exceed the interest earned by a fixed interest only annuity.

The **guarantees may not be “sexy” but they form the foundation of why someone should consider a hybrid annuity. We all like the “potential” to do better — Dick and Eric tackle the moving parts of a Hybrid Annuity in this weeks second segment of this two-part series.

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**Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. During this segment, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.

Enjoy our short Fog Lifter video…

“The Power of Indexing and Contractual Income Guarantees”

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Are Hybrid Annuities too Complicated?

A common complaint leveled at hybrid annuities is that they are too complicated and have too many moving parts. The Annuity Guys®, Dick and Eric, discuss why many folks in the media and investment world like to hobby-horse this point while missing the real reasons why these financial products work so well as a foundational allocation in thousands of retirement portfolios. The secret is “the non-moving parts otherwise known as contractual **guarantees.”

Contractual Guarantees – absolute **guarantees, no-moving parts.

Hybrid/Fixed Index Annuities – allow for upside potential of specified moving parts in addition to absolute contractual **guarantees.

Income Rider – addendum to an annuity contract **guaranteeing a future lifetime income plus additional benefits in some income riders (this is a contractual **guarantee).

Features, Benefits, and Facts:

Annuity Owner Remains in majority control of the annuity’s cash account value during the surrender term and has 100% control after the surrender term.
Full account value of the cash account passes on to heirs with no surrender or penalty charge.
Guaranteed growth in deferral **guaranteeing a minimum future income. Example: Initial Premium $100,000 + 5% bonus **guaranteed growth of 7.2 percent deferred for ten years = $210,000 income account value producing a of $12,600 per year at age 70 with a single life payout.
Payout percentages from the income account are based on age and a single or joint income need. Example: age seventy single payout 6 percent or joint payout 5.5 percent
Fees for riders can be based on the cash or income account value and are charged to the cash account. Fees typically range from half of one percent (.5%) to one and a quarter percent (1.25%). This does not reduce the **guaranteed growth of the income account.
May have a death benefit allowing the income account if it is larger than the cash account to be distributed to heirs over a five-year period.
May have an increasing income as an inflation hedge.
May have a Long Term Care Benefit.

Index Strategy Moving Parts:

(Index examples: *S&P 500, *Dow Jones Industrial, *Trader Vic (Commodities), *Barclays Capital Aggregate US Bond, and literally any third-party index may be specified as a measure for crediting interest).

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Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Eric: Today, we’re going to talk about hybrid annuities. Do they have too many moving parts? Sounds like a flashback to maybe a previous episode.

Dick: Like one last week that we said ‘are they too complicated?’

Eric: This time, we talked about at the very end, all the moving parts. Now we’re going to get a little bit more detail as to, do they have too many moving parts?

Dick: That’s a good question, and I think that some folks would say, yes, it’s too complicated. There are too many moving parts. I think that you have to really weigh over who’s saying it and why they’re saying it; what their motive is.

Eric: Yeah. The first thing we should start out is where we started last week, in saying, why does somebody buy an annuity to begin with? It’s contractual to **guarantees.

Dick: Right. Exactly!

Eric: Safety, security, predictability. That’s why we like the hybrid annuities, is for those contractual **guarantees.

Dick: The moving parts, as we discussed last week folks, the moving parts are those things that are in addition to the contractual **guarantees; so those are the potential of the annuity. If you can be satisfied, and this is what we do with our clients, we help them to see where the contractual **guarantees actually do meet all of their concerns and their objections. Then if they can get some additional potential on top of that, then that’s a win-win.

Eric: Right. Let’s start with the base here. Typically, we’ve got this fixed indexed annuity as the base.

Dick: Right. That’s our chassis.

Eric: That’s our chassis. What then goes into making a fixed indexed annuity a hybrid annuity?

Dick: Typically, it will be an income **guarantee, and that income **guarantee will give a lot of different benefits, primarily knowing what your income is going to be at some point in the future that will help to offset inflation and know that you’ve got some type of increasing income at some point in time.

Eric: Right. We talk about that income rider quite a bit because of what it offers. It’s one of those things that’s attractive to people because they remain in majority control. We’ll go into detail in the article about what majority control means. It’s also a way of taking assets and being able to pass it on to a beneficiary or heirs.

Dick: Yes. It’s not like the immediate annuity where you give the lump sum away. There’s a count value.

Eric: Too often, people want the annuity, but they don’t want to give up that control.

Dick: Correct.

Eric: That’s what that hybrid aspect brings to this chassis.

Dick: It does.

Eric: Payout percentages, as good, better than . . .

Dick: Payout percentages, as compared to an immediate annuity, if you’re starting an immediate annuity today and you’re starting a hybrid annuity today, the payout percentage will typically be a little bit less. The beauty of it is, the immediate annuity pretty much has to be started within 12 months of the time that you’ve signed up or been approved for your immediate annuity. However, with a hybrid annuity, the idea of deferral says that it’s going to pay out a lot more at some point in time.

Eric: Right. If you’re just looking for the most money you can get right now and you don’t care about anything else, then look at an immediate annuity.

Eric: If you’re wanting flexibility plus those **guarantees, that’s where the hybrid comes in.

Dick: Not only that, but there situations where the immediate annuity isn’t that much more.

Dick: Folks are more interested in that account value, if they don’t use it all up, going on to the heirs.

Eric: Right. That’s been one of the biggest reasons people are drawn toward the hybrids. The income rider tends to be the first piece that we highlight. Is it a moving part?

Dick: No. That’s what’s good about the income rider, is that it is a contractual **guarantee. That is part of that chassis that is **guaranteed.

Eric: I would say, if you’re looking at a fixed indexed annuity, what makes it a hybrid is, again, is adding that income rider component, that **guarantee of income in deferral. Basically, you’re building that account base in deferral.

Dick: Another aspect that lends itself to the hybrid aspect of the annuity is the idea that you can get some upside potential without the downside risk. You’ve got a little bit of that variable annuity^# flair to it with that. That’s where the confusion tends to come in.

Eric: Yeah. We’ve talked about this before, too. People will call up and we’ll talk to them and say, “I’m interested in a variable annuity^#.” In the mindset of somebody, the variable aspect is because it has the potential of having varying rates of return.

Dick: Right, some increased potential.

Eric: Right. In this case, an indexed annuity has varying rates of potential, sometimes based off of, basically, those indexed components.

Dick: In the early days, Eric, of indexed annuities and what we now call hybrid annuities a lot, they were sold and people purchased them, or wanted them, based on these indexes that did have all of this fluctuation and movement in them. The reason for it was because it did protect the downside, it did give them upside, and the fact of the matter is, there have been many time periods when this type of an annuity has out-performed the stock market, but it was never intended to do that in the first place.

Eric: We’ll tell you right now, if your intent is to go out there and beat the market, don’t buy one.

Dick: Don’t buy one.

Eric: That’s not the purpose for a hybrid annuity.

Dick: It’s possible that you can do it.

Eric: Over a period of time.

Dick: But it’s not the reason. It’s not the purpose.

Eric: Right. Because what you’re trying to do with a hybrid is limit your downside.

Eric: You’re taking away that downside risk of being in the market because your principal is protected.

Dick: Exactly. Eric, we’re not doing a very good job of getting to our list here.

Eric: I was going to say, we’re going to get to the second point here very soon. It’s talking about some of the moving parts that are truly involved in the indexing components.

Eric: Dick’s done an excellent job of laying out an article here, so if you haven’t had enough time to watch us, you’ll see below, or in the links below.

Dick: Read it more in-depth.

Eric: We’ve got some additional details. Caps.

Dick: Caps, okay. My cap’s hanging right there. Let’s tie the caps into; first of all, what’s an index? Most of you folks understand that when we talk about an index, this could be any type of index. It could be an index . . . let’s use the popular ones.

Eric: S&P, NASDAQ.

Dick: Dow Jones, The Trader Vic’s. You could use a gold index. You could use a bond index; any degree of creativity.

Eric: Exactly. The index could be literally the temperature outside each day. It’s a benchmark on which you can measure something. The most popular ones are those that are tied to the stock market.

Dick: They do buy call options on these indexes, so that is the purpose, why we choose an index. When we look at the caps, folks, if the market goes up 10% in a given year, and your cap is 3% or 4%, which is about where caps are now. We have some exceptions, where caps are higher, but somewhere in that 3% to 4% range, market goes up 10%, how much are they going to get, Eric?

Eric: If the cap’s 3%, you’re going to get 3%. That’s the limiting factor. You have no downside risk. If the market’s down 10%; 0. You’ll hear a lot of people talk, “Zero is your hero,” because you don’t have that backslide in case you had multiple down years. You don’t have to worry about recovering from a backslide. The worst that’s going to happen is that you stay on a level plane.

Dick: Right. One of the things that we didn’t really touch on, which I will just drop back to for a second here and then move on, that is one the income rider. Typically, that will have somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe a 7% **guarantee; 6%, 7%, we’ve even seen 8% for some time periods, which was a **guarantee. Even though you might have a 3% cap on the indexing for your cash account, your index account could be significantly higher.

Eric: That’s why that income rider is so popular, because while it’s in deferral, you can get those **guaranteed growth periods.

Dick: Right. If we move into the spread?

Eric: Personally, I’m a big fan of the spread; and that’s not peanut butter and jelly, necessarily. I like spreads because with a standard fee, you have typically a percentage that’s pulled out every quarter, of your account, period after period. Let’s just use a round number.

Dick: You’re referring to the income rider.

Eric: Income rider fees.

Dick: Right. Okay.

Eric: You could have fees for other things, but the income rider fee, which is what makes a hybrid annuity really a hybrid, is having that income rider. There’s typically a fee associated. If that fee is ½%, that ½% is going to be pulled out on a regular interval, ir-regardless of whether or not you’re getting a gain.

Dick: Whether you had any interest earnings or not.

Eric: That’s correct. Spreads on the other hand, are typically higher than fees. A fee may be 50 basis points, ½%. You may see a spread of 1½% to 2%. The deal with the spread is the company only takes their portion if you have a gain. You’re giving up the first portion of any kind of gain that you could receive.

Dick: Right. Your account value cannot go backwards if you’re not earning with a spread.

Eric: That’s right. If you had 12 consecutive, or 10 consecutive, years of getting 0 return, whatever you put in principle-wise, would be **guaranteed to be that same level.

Dick: Right. I think that the spread has a definite place, and it should be considered in the overall picture. As we’ve experienced with certain annuities that don’t have a spread, their contractual **guarantees are so much higher for the income. Since that’s the client’s primary objective, then it makes sense to go with the fee over the spread, using that particular annuity. You have to weigh it against all those factors.

Eric: Exactly. Typically, you’ll see the spread number being higher. It’s just attractive when you’re looking at predictability, that you know that you’re not going to have any kind of negative impact just because you don’t have a return.

Dick: Another idea of using the spread is when the market has . . . when you’re using it in indexing, and maybe you’re doing an average of a year’s worth of indexing, and they will say, “If your average growth of the index for the year was 10%, you’re going to have a 3% spread.” That means that first 3% of that 10%, you don’t get. On the other hand, if that year there was a 5% negative growth, or 10% negative growth, then your 3% spread would not be applicable, because there’s no earnings, no growth there.

Eric: Right. Where we typically see the spreads are on something that have more upside potential a lot of the time.

Dick: Right. Did I actually do the math where I said, “If you’re up 10% and you have a 3% spread, you would have 7% gain”? Let’s move on and talk about participation.

Eric: That’s the easiest thing, in the sense of it’s taking a percentage of the growth and you get a participation percentage, typically. Back in the good old days, it might have been 50%. If the gain was 10% of the market, you would get ½.

Dick: I was always a fan of participation, but because of the financial crisis we’ve been through, the Great Recession, we’ve seen all that pare back to where participation rights are now down around 25%. The market goes up, let’s use that 10%, it’s easy to figure. If the market goes up 10% and I get 25%, what did I earn?

Eric: 2½.

Dick: 2 ½%, okay.

Eric: I got my calculator in my pocket.

Dick: You’re good, Eric. Okay. We already touched on the average a little bit, in using the spread, so maybe we’ll move on to the next one. This one’s very interesting. This one, I see messed with a little bit. When I say messed with, folks, I see you messed with a little bit, unfortunately, from advisors that overstate this particular strategy.

Eric: Are we talking about the monthly sum?

Dick: Monthly sum. The monthly average.

Eric: Look at the potential.

Dick: It does have good potential. It just doesn’t usually work out, Eric.

Eric: 2% a month. There’s 12 months in a year.

Dick: If I get 2% each month, and I add those together, that means I’ve got 24% potential. If the market goes up 24%, and it does at 2% a year, I get all 24%. Is that correct?

Eric: 2% a month.

Dick: A month, yeah, keep me straight.

Eric: For the whole year, I’ll get 24%. That’s my potential in a given year.

Dick: What’s the worst thing that can happen in that year? If you’re going up 2% every month, what’s the worst thing that could happen maybe in that 10th or 11th month?

Eric: That’s where the market loses 20% in one month.

Dick: That couldn’t wipe it all out, could it?

Eric: Yes, it can.

Dick: It can?

Eric: There’s no downside protection.

Dick: Folks, that’s the problem. The monthly sum and the monthly average has a cap on the upside, but it has no cap on the downside. The companies have figured out that, yes, there are some years where you really do capture and you get those big, big returns, and it feels good and it looks good. There are times to actually use this strategy.

Eric: Now is probably one of them, actually.

Dick: It very well could be.

Eric: I always call it the homerun versus the single. We talk about annual point being the single. You get lots of singles, but the monthly sum is truly going for the homerun. We have seen returns out there in the 14%, 15%, 18% range.

Dick: Right. More often than not, what do we see? A big 0. We may see a client go for 3, 4, or 6 years before seeing any interest crediting to their account, and that’s pretty tough for people. They’re not going backwards.

Eric: Right, and we should qualify that. While you’ve got not downside protection on the month within the index, that doesn’t apply to the account value. The account value, the worst it’s going to do, again, is 0. Even if your index finishes down on the year, what will be applied to your account is basically 0 gain.

Dick: Okay. Now we come to a very interesting one, Eric, called the blend.

Eric: The blend, the blender.

Dick: We put it in the blender. We’ll do one of these. Here we go. Let’s make this real simple. A blend is like a balanced portfolio: You put 50% in stocks and you put 50% in bonds. However in this case, what we’re doing is we’re putting 50% in some popular index. It’s not really going in the index, as we’ve discussed many times. It’s using it as a measure. We’re putting 50% in towards an index and we’re putting 50% into . . . I’m just using 50%, folks. It could be 30% or 40%, but it all equals 100%. 50% into a fixed rate of interest. We’re just saying ½ the account goes into fixed rate of interest, ½ the account goes into stocks.

Eric: Right. Then you dump them both in the blender.

Dick: Right. Exactly. There’s no cap on the 50% where the stocks are at.

Eric: Which is what makes it attractive to [inaudible: 16:08]. You’ve got unlimited upside potential on the blend side. They all have limiting factors.

Dick: It’s tricky.

Eric: What’s in that fixed rate bucket is typically, right now it’s at 1% or 2%. The best that 50% is going to do is 2%

Dick: Yeah, 2% or 1½%.

Eric: You can get 10% or 20% over here, but it has to be then blended with that fixed rate bucket.

Dick: Typically, you could take, in a year where you had the market up 10% and you had a 2% bucket and you had a 10% bucket, and they were both equal in this case. You put in the blender, you stirred it all up, what are you going to come out with?

Eric: 6%.

Dick: About 6%. Boy, you are good. Folks, we’ve done the math for you on these. When you’re on this website, we’ve got some formulas, and we broke it down in simple terms so that you can read it slowly and get a good understanding of what we’re talking about.

Eric: We try to give you at least a cursory idea of what to expect when you’re seeing some of these terms flown about.

Dick: We’ve probably . . . hopefully, we have not. Hopefully, we haven’t thoroughly confused you. What we really want you to take away from this is that these are the moving parts that give you greater potential. These are not the specific reasons, for most of you, why you would actually buy or choose to allocate to a hybrid annuity.

Eric: If you’re buying for these bells and whistles, the fit’s probably not right. If you’re buying for the base chassis, and you can live with that **guarantee from the income rider and from the annuity aspect and the income side, or the estate planning side, whatever that need is, if this fits your need and you can just understand that there’s the potential for a little bit more extra.

Dick: This is where a good advisor comes in, because they can look at the potential, they can look at what’s going on in the economy in general. Folks, they can help you make a good decision on which way to go in this indexing. Even if the indexing really produced nothing and you had good contractual **guarantees, which is what you should have your sights set on, you’ll be satisfied.

Eric: Exactly. Buy for the basics, and be happy with the extras.

Dick: Right. Exactly.

Eric: Hope we’ve broken down and explained to you the ‘says who’ portion.

Dick: Yes, ‘says who’. Look behind the veil a little bit and see who’s telling you that they’re too complicated, because maybe from that person it is too complicated. For someone who understands a hybrid annuity and what it does for the client, it can be very effective as a good retirement financial tool.

Eric: Thanks for tuning us in today.

Dick: Thank you.

Are Hybrid Annuities too Complicated?

October 19, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

In our conversations with people considering annuities we often hear them repeat a phrase they have read or heard from someone else, “hybrid or index annuities are too complicated”. Most of the people we know drive cars even though they can’t explain how the internal combustion engine works. Similarly, hybrid annuities can have a number of moving parts — but that should not stop you from owning one if the non-moving parts (contractual **guarantees) meet your income, growth or estate planning objectives.

Dick and Eric reveal the reason why people would choose a hybrid annuity and then provide a list of the “moving parts”.

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Some of the “Moving Parts” that may be in a Hybrid Annuity

Contractual Guarantees (absolute, non-moving)
Income Riders
Index Strategies
Annual Point-to-Point with Caps
Annual Point-to-Point Average Spread
Annual Point-to-Point Monthly Average or Sum
Annual Point-to-Point with Participation Rate
Caps
Spreads
Fees
Uncapped Index
Blends
Biannual Point-to-Point
Quadrennial Point-to-Point

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: Eric, we hear it all the time.

Eric: “They’re too complicated!”

Dick: We see it all the time that hybrid annuities or fixed index annuities are too complicated.

Eric: “There are too many moving parts. How can you explain these things to me? It doesn’t make sense. There’s too much!”

Dick: Well, there has to be something to this because everywhere you look, that is one of the most prominent things that are written about annuities, in general. I don’t care if it’s a variable. Sometimes they say immediate annuities are simple and they are in general, but there are a lot of different parts to an immediate annuity.

Eric: Oh no, they’re simple.

Eric: They’re immediate, immediate gratification. I give you this much. You send me a check for this much.

Dick: Okay, so if these are too complicated, why should somebody even consider getting one?

Eric: Well, there’s the **guarantee aspect.

Dick: Right, that might have something to do with it.

Eric: Well, maybe a contractual **guarantee would be a good thing.

Dick: I think that might be one of the reasons why these have become so popular.

Eric: You think?

Dick: Folks, when you look at an annuity and you look at all the moving parts, there’s no question it can become very complex, very complicated. If you get lost in all of the things about an annuity, you’ll miss some of the main points, which are what you just said Eric, it is the contractual **guarantee.

Eric: That’s right when you go, and you start looking or considering an annuity for retirement, typically. What do you need? What are you solving for? Do you need lifetime income and if you do, how much? Then you look at what you have and if you purchase an annuity, this is what the minimum **guarantee is. That is the key element of a purchase of that level. What’s the minimum **guarantee?

Dick: So if I want to know that I have a certain level of income, at a certain age that is just flat out **guaranteed and I’m satisfied with that and that meets my retirement objective, then why do I have all these other moving parts?

Eric: Well, I think we refer to it maybe as gravy or icing, depending on which type of plate you prefer.

Dick: That’s what we talk to our clients about is if we can first of all, make sure that we’ve met your objectives, and that you’re satisfied, and that is absolutely iron-clad **guaranteed, then anything we can get that comes with the moving parts is extra.

Eric: That’s right. That’s what you have to understand. Working backwards, I think is the best way to look at it. It’s what do you need? Is it income? Is it growth? When we look at growth, what’s the **guaranteed rate? You know what’s the **guaranteed rate of return? If we get more than that, will you be disappointed? No.

Dick: And we might achieve a higher rate, by utilizing a death benefit.

Eric: Exactly. It’s another **guarantee. The **guarantee may come from the base of the contract or it may come from a rider.

Dick: That’s right.

Eric: But those riders are part of those contractual **guarantees, it’s built into the contract.

Dick: Yes, when we talk about moving parts and things being complicated, I know a lot of folks that are watching have had experience with mutual fund^{^}s and different items of this nature. When we think in terms of prospectus, how complicated is that?

Eric: Well, you’re assuming one thing, people have read the prospectus. Most people don’t bother to pick up the prospectus they get from a mutual fund^{^}. They don’t want to read the 40-50-200 pages of information, in print this small. They just don’t want to look at it.

Dick: And if you do read it, I mean obviously there is a certain complicated aspect to it, and yet it’s very similar when you’re looking at an annuity, from the standpoint that there are some parts of it that can seem complex.

Eric: Right and it usually has to do with the growth potential side, in both the mutual fund^{^} and in the annuity world. It’s that aspect that creates the sizzle, I think as you call it.

Dick: Truly, we’re aware of this because we’ve seen it, where an advisor or an agent is overzealous trying to sell an annuity. They paint this picture of all this upside potential. No downside risk, but a lot of upside potential. That is not always going to be the case. In fact, it’s just way overstated.

Eric: People take the marketing components of everything and talk about the potential. When we talk to prospects, clients, whoever here, we’ll have someone come in and say “I just talked to this guy and he talked about this 7.0% or 8.0% **guarantee.”

Dick: Right 7.0% or 8.0% growth and compounding.

Eric: Yeah, and it’s **guaranteed. And then we always have to pull them back a little bit and say that may be on the income rider portion. Now it’s a contractual **guarantee component, but they have to understand that that’s a number they can only use for income. As long as that meets their basic need, it’s part of that contractual **guarantee, but they have to understand how it works.

Dick: Right, exactly. Folks, there are genuinely a lot of different aspects, especially to a hybrid annuity or what we would call a fixed indexed annuity which is the hybrid annuity. Eric, I thought we’d just kind of run down this list and we’ll put this on the blog site.

Eric: List the moving parts here for you.

Dick: Yeah, and maybe we could aim for next week or something, to get a little more into each moving part.

Eric: I think that would benefit most of the people we speak with, because the confusing part, the complication comes from the moving parts.

Dick: And I would say, folks don’t get too hung up on this, because we’re going to make it sound real complicated here. The fact of the matter is that, if you’ll truly focus on the contractual **guarantee aspect, you’ll understand that these are just options that you have, that can be used. And that’s where you do need an advisor, to help you to make those decisions, on what might give you greater potential.

Eric: All right, so what are the moving parts? You made a list, because we didn’t want to forget anything and I’m sure we will forget something.

Dick: Our biggest challenge will be not to actually start describing these, as we go through them. He’s just going to read the list.

Eric: We decided it would take way too long to describe each one individually in this episode.

Dick: Well, I’ll tell you what, you want me to just go ahead and read it?

Eric: Yes, read them.

Dick: Okay, we’ve got first of all the annual point-to-point with a cap. There’s an annual point-to-point with an average, where the index is again, averaged over the course of a year, and typically there will be a spread in there.

Eric: See, he’s explaining them already. He’s trying to explain it. See now your head’s starting to spin isn’t it?

Dick: Okay, I’ll stay on track. Here I go, annual point-to-point with a monthly average, or also called monthly sum. Annual point-to-point, with a participation rate could be 100% could be… There I go; caps, spreads, fees, uncapped indexes, blends, two-year, four-year, three-year, five-year point-to-point.

Eric: Points, yeah. I’m sure we left out something.

Dick: I did pretty good.

Eric: He finally reined it in a little bit. He really wants; we really do want to break it down for you.

Dick: We will. It’s tough not to start explaining, folks.

Eric: We really do want to break it down for you.

Dick: We will. We’ll break it down more.

Eric: Give you a reason to come back and check the email registry.

Eric: We appreciate you tuning in today.

Dick: Thank you very much.

Why Hybrid Annuities Are Game Changers

October 12, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

Two recent studies discuss the overwhelming growth of annuities as a sought after financial product. LIMRA cited the significant growth in the number of Baby Boomers now doing their research for information about annuities online. While, Cerulli Associates in a recent survey revealed that annuities have become the most requested financial product that clients ask their advisors about. With all of the mixed press, for and against annuities, these are significant upward trends as those near or in retirement move towards the security of annuities seeking growth and income **guarantees.

These studies failed to point out the impact of hybrid annuities — Dick and Eric discuss Why… hybrid annuities are the real “Game Changers”.

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Advisors Say Annuities Are Now Their Most Requested Product

Advisors report that clients request annuities more than any other unsolicited product, according to new research from Cerulli Associates.

Annuities ranked sixth in 2011, but interest in the product has increased over the last year, marked by a 15% increase in the number of times clients request annuities from their advisors, according to the report, Annuities and Insurance 2012: Evaluating Growth Capacity, Flows and Product Trends.

“We’ve seen a tremendous year-over-year increase in the number of times financial advisors receive requests from their clients for annuities,” Donnie Ethier, senior analyst at Cerulli, said in a statement.

Of the advisors surveyed, 60.8% of advisors had clients who requested annuities, just above Roth IRAs, which 58.8% of advisors were asked about. [Read More…]

More Consumers Use the Internet to Research Insurance and Annuity Products

Study Finds Agents and Advisors Still Play a Vital Role in the Purchasing Process.

WINDSOR, Conn., Oct. 10, 2012 — Sixty-one percent of consumers who researched individual insurance or annuity products looked online, a significant increase over the 38 percent of consumers who looked online in 2006.

“With two-thirds of Americans conducting searches online, it is not surprising that the number of people seeking information about life insurance and annuity products online has increased more than 60 percent over the past six years,” said Mary Art, research director, LIMRA technology research. “However, despite the popularity of online sources, more consumers (69 percent) sought information from agents, brokers and advisors, who are often viewed as the most valuable and influential information sources.”

The top three reasons consumers sought information online are:

Research companies and product offerings
Seek general product information
Compare prices

This is true across all age-groups and income levels.

The study found that more consumers value information gathered online in 2012 than did in 2006, although it still lags behind insurance professionals. In 2006, only 18 percent of recent researchers considered Internet sources to be their most valuable sources, significantly less than the 25 percent found in 2012. In contrast, 37 percent of consumers rate insurance professionals as most valuable in 2012, eight percentage points lower than those who did in 2006. It is also important to note that one in six (16 percent) consumers cite workplace sources as most valuable.

“Companies need to understand that one size does not fit all when it comes to educating consumers about products and services,” noted Art. “Using a multi-channel approach will reach a broader audience in the ways they want to collect information and will most likely lead to more sales.” [Read More…]

Annuity Guys Video Transcript:

Eric: Today, we’re going to talk about why hybrid annuities are game-changers in today’s environment.

Dick: They have changed the annuity world.

Eric: That’s right. It’s not just playoff time in the baseball season. It’s the game-changing time here in the annuity world.

Dick: That’s right.

Eric: There’s a couple things that have come up in the news recently, for some reports that have talked about annuities in general, so we should probably start there, in the fact amongst advisors the Number 1 question they’re getting asked now is about annuities. They want to know what’s . . . it’s the most-requested product out there.

Dick: Right. that’s moved up from a year ago, Eric, where it was asked, it was the Number 6 question on the list and now it’s moved up to the Number 1 question. What do you suppose is driving that?

Eric: Our website, probably. Obviously if you’re watching, this you’ve been driven to inquire about annuities.

Dick: You know what, that brings up our other article, which we’ll tie them all together here, is that the consumer now, about 60% of the consumers are going online, investors are looking at annuities and trying to decide how that fits into their portfolio, and they’re relying on the internet for that.

Eric: Right. There’s a lot of numbers we can throw out here: 10,000 people a day are turning age 65. People are retiring, that’s an obvious number. More and more people are retiring, so what do you want? You want safety, security, income.

Dick: Right. You want to get money over to heirs; you want to do it the most efficient way.

Eric: People are concerned. When you look at the problems that Social Security, Medicare, all these government programs are having, they’re looking to other avenues for safety and security. What better than annuity? That’s really what we talk about, with the foundational aspects of annuities being safety, security, and income.

Dick: When you look at this number, you threw a statistic out there, 10,000 a day. Folks, that equates to 78 million Baby-Boomers over the next 15 years. Baby-Boomers are some of the folks that are most comfortable with the internet. The first ones in, not so much. Now as we see this trend begin to change where folks rely on that online information to make their decisions.

Eric: That’s right. They’re turning more and more online to get a little bit of information, and they’re curious about annuities. These two articles didn’t surprise us because, surprisingly or not so surprisingly . . .

Dick: We got our beak both worlds.

Eric: . . . we tend to talk to quite a few people about annuities . . .

Dick: We’ve seen that volume go up, and up, and up.

Eric: That’s right. We can personally say from our own website that started with just our little Central Illinois focus, we now have a national focus.

Dick: It’s just mushroomed out, exactly. Yet there’s really a larger percentage still, about 69% of individuals also want to get their information from someone on a local basis. It’s a mixture of the two that work so well. I think that’s where we come in, Eric, in trying to do both. We run our local practice, so we meet with our clients. We have this national website, which is, folks, it’s loaded with information that you can do your research. Then we’ll actually take that next step and help you get involved with a local advisor.

Eric: All right. Now we’ve said all these things, now what the heck does that have to do with hybrid annuities being game-changers? I can tell you when I talk to people, and I can tell you, out of 100% of the people I’ve talked to today, almost every single one asked me about hybrid annuities and what the potential was for either inflation hedging or deferral. We know that the hybrid annuity has really become a game-changers.

Dick: What will maybe, like you say, a 100% today, and at least 10 to 1, 5 to 1, 10 to 1, when folks call in, they may have an interest in an immediate annuity or a variable annuity^#, but it always tends to come back around to the hybrid annuity, which really is the fixed indexed annuity with some of these new income riders. Folks will ask us about that and kind of want us to explain it.

Eric: Really, we always talk about . . . I talk to people about working backwards from your goals to figuring out, one is an annuity a right vehicle, and then how do we meet those goals? A lot of times, we’ll end up looking at those income riders to meet those goals, because I like **guarantees. That’s what those income riders and those . . .

Dick: Contractual **guarantees. If we can live with the **guarantees, anything else is icing on the cake.

Eric: Icing. I like icing. What are the **guarantees that are possible with a hybrid annuity? You have income **guarantees; income for life without giving up your lump sum.

Dick: Right. It’s predictable income that can grow over a period of time.

Eric: You have some annuities in the hybrid world that those income riders can actually produce an increasing income **guarantee, which is unique and innovative. Then the deferral aspect of those income riders; right now, everybody knows interest rates are . . .

Dick: Down.

Eric: Boo. These unique components the insurance companies are offering on these income riders is as **guaranteed growth rollup for money that can be used for future income.

Dick: Right, while it’s in deferral. That way you have this predictable future income; there’s no surprises. The only surprise could be something that would be better than the minimum. Not likely though with today’s cap rates.

Eric: Right. It’s neat when we find something that’s innovative, that we think is going to outperform, but most of the time, we’re not trying to beat the insurance company. You want the insurance company to be in business as long as you’re going to need . We’re looking for, basically, something that provides both you and the company a **guarantee. They’re going to be both in business.

Dick: The way that the hybrid annuities really have changed the game is a lot of folks, as we would say, your parents’ annuity was an immediate annuity. That immediate annuity carried the stigma of, “I have to give the insurance company all of this money, and if I die, they get to keep it?” That didn’t go over well, as you can imagine.

Eric: It helped them build a lot of big buildings.

Dick: Yet the hybrid annuity comes along and says, “We’re going to work it out so that you can have a the rest of your life, and you can also have your lump sum. If you haven’t used it all, it can just pass on to your heirs.”

Eric: Right. If you don’t’ use it all, we’ll actually give you it back. Whatever you haven’t used, you get it back. Very unique, very innovative, taking the best of the variable world that was very indicative. Now we’ve seen, from a performance standpoint, what’s being offered in what we see people purchasing more often now. We had an article or a blog we did, it’s been about a month ago, the enhanced numbers, what you see the most growth in the annuity world.

Dick: That was the LIMRA Report. Folks you can go back, 3 or 4 blog posts back.

Eric: We’ll put a link out there.

Dick: Another link we’ll put in there. The only area there’s been growth.

Eric: Yeah, it grew, what, 10%?

Dick: Yes. Year-over-year, or [inaudible: 07:27].

Eric: Versus some of the other types of annuities that are actually . . . they’re still being sold, but there just not the growth there.

Dick: Right. Yeah, folks, the hybrid annuities have really had explosive growth and there’s a reason for that. People are cautious and careful about what they do. We live in an information age where folks can go online; they can find the truth out about things. You can fool a few people part of the time, but you can’t fool everybody all of the time. These are legitimate, suitable products if they’re used the right way, and many people are very, very pleased with them.

Eric: That’s right. If you’re looking for safety, security, but yet, not willing to give it all up, consider a hybrid annuity. It’s a game-changer.

Dick: It is a game-changer.

Eric: Thanks for watching today.

Dick: Thank you. Bye now.

Annuities – The Best Financial Product No One Wants!

September 7, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

Why would an insurance actuary call annuities the best financial product no one really wants? And why would he go on to say that in retirement he might not even purchase an annuity himself even when he knows they make good sense?

Dick and Eric discuss why individuals purchase annuities – even though they don’t want to…

Annuities: The best financial product no one really wants

“Annuities are not sexy. You hand over your money to an insurance company who then puts you on a seemingly stingy allowance for the rest of your life”

People who save through RRSPs have a choice to make when they retire. They can transfer their RRSP balance to an RRIF and draw it down at their own pace (subject to a minimum) or they can buy an annuity.

The simple fact is, an annuity may be a great idea, but hardly anyone buys one.

It is easy to blame low interest rates, which depress the amount of annuity income one can buy these days. But annuities were not in vogue even when interest rates were much higher a dozen years ago.
‘Let me be honest. When I retire, I am unlikely to buy an annuity myself, even though I’m an actuary and know all the advantages’

Economists have come to refer to this phenomenon as the “under-annuitization puzzle.”

Buying an annuity seems like an elegant solution since it removes the risk of outliving one’s assets (what actuaries like to call “longevity risk”), it eliminates the hassle of making investing decisions after retiring and the income stream it provides is super safe (it really is, at least in Canada). So why are they so unpopular?

In recent years, however, the economics of annuities have improved greatly. Annuities in Canada now generally return 95% to 100% of premiums paid. In fact, with the recent fall in long-term government bond yields, annuities now return more than 100% return of premiums paid in many cases. The economics, then, can no longer be blamed.

Another often-cited reason for not annuitizing is that the retiree wants to leave a large lump sum to a survivor in the case of early death. This argument, however, does not hold up on closer examination.
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Even when people have little or no interest in leaving assets behind for their heirs, they tend not buy annuities. Moreover, annuities can come with generous survivor income options, if one is prepared to pay for them. Another excuse shot down.

There are other explanations for this puzzle, including: The desire to have money on hand in retirement for a rainy day; the recognition that income needs might vary and the fixed income from an annuity might not match up well; and a reluctance to give up the chance to do better by investing in equities within a RRIF if stock markets do well.

Let me be honest. When I retire, I am unlikely to buy an annuity myself, even though I’m an actuary and know all the advantages.

I would be the first to admit this reaction is not entirely rational. The reason, plain and simple, is that annuities are not sexy. You hand over your money to an insurance company who then puts you on a seemingly stingy allowance for the rest of your life. [Read the Full Article from Fred Vettese at the Financial Post]

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Eric: The topic is annuities. The best financial product no one really wants.

Dick: Can you imagine that no one would want an annuity, Eric? Is that a true statement?

Eric: No, the people I talk to every day, everybody wants an annuity.

Dick: But that’s different. Folks, the people that we talk to may be someone like yourself that’s actually went to our national website, as Eric likes to remind me, international website.

Eric: International website.

Dick: But goes to our website and they’re already in the mindset of annuities.

Eric: Right, they’re doing their research. They’re doing the background on why this might work for them.

Dick: So we might be just a little bit skewed, do you think?

Eric: We’re taking it based off an article, and interestingly enough, it was written by an actuary who works for an insurance company. His comment and I love this, “Annuities are not sexy. You hand over your money to an insurance company who then puts you on a seemingly stingy allowance for the rest of your life.” Well, that sounds pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

Dick: I do have to say that, before I knew much about annuities, many years ago that never entered my mind, never crossed my train of thought. Would I rather have a new car, a new house, or an annuity?

Eric: Rather than an annuity. That’s not fair. Everybody would rather have a new car or a new house.

Dick: That’s right, and really when you think about it, and that’s a lot what this article gets into is we built this money up. We accumulate this money and we like the idea of hanging onto it, controlling it, investing it, whatever we choose to do with our money, but to hand it over to an insurance company and let them give us money back, it’s kind of a transitional state that we go through to make these types of decisions, and there has to be a pretty good reason behind it.

Eric: I come from a family of educators. I’ve talked about that before.

Eric: You know right now in Illinois, we’re fighting. They’re fighting to maintain their pension. Well, what’s an annuity really?

Dick: It’s a pension-style income.

Eric: I mean for today’s 401k investors they’re basically, when you get your retirement you’ve got this lump sum. Do you want to keep the lump sum or would you rather have a pension?

Dick: The vast majority of retirees before they retire and they have this choice, not all companies give this choice; but there are a lot of corporations that will give the employee the choice of a lump sum or a pension. Now the vast majority choose the pension. They’ve worked their entire life.

Eric: For the seemingly stingy income for life?

Dick: Yeah, and yet, even those that would take the lump sum, in many cases will turn right around with that lump sum, and buy a commercial annuity that they feel is a better option, than maybe the pension the company was going to offer. So we tend to get it when it comes to that lump sum that comes from the employer, but yet many times we’ve worked all of our lives, built up all of this money and what’s the purpose of it?

Eric: It’s mine. I want to keep it.

Dick: What’s it supposed to accomplish?

Eric: That’s exactly it. It’s just future spending. It’s not savings. Its future spending is what we’ve save for, but we don’t think of it in those terms. We think of it as “This is money I saved. I don’t want to give it to somebody and then have them, give me a seemingly small allowance.”

Dick: Right, and that’s where the insurance company’s job, their job is to look at risk, to manage risk, to know what’s realistic. You’ll have to read this report, folks and kind of get the gist of what this person’s saying, because he actually is an actuary and he’s really laying out that these insurance companies don’t always win on this stuff.

Eric: And he talked about annuities are much better—the design and what they payout in today’s era, is much better than they were 10-20-30-years ago.

Dick: Right, a lot’s changed.

Eric: You really do have an actuarial advantage to buying an annuity and he admits that, even though I know this advantage exists, I’m not so sure.

Dick: I might be standoffish when I first retire, but maybe as my age advances I’m going to be more apt to do this. This kind of brings me back to a lot of the buzz that is out there and things we talk about with the hybrid annuity but one of the things that appeals so much to folks, on a hybrid-style annuity is that they are able to control that lump sum. What we call majority control the first 10-years or so of an annuity. You have some surrender charges, so you control about 90% of it during that first 10 years, and those surrender charges decline, so after 10 years, you control 100% of it and you still have a lifetime income. And yet, if you haven’t used that money in your account, it can all go on to your heirs, your spouse, whatever is important to you.

Eric: Exactly. In his life point, I guess in summation here he talks about you know what? Everybody has, even if you have that lump sum investment you have, usually a portion that’s in equities and you have a portion as you get closer to retirement that we should all be moving into those fixed payments, bonds, CD-style. What would be wrong with taking those more conservative assets, turning that into an annuity and then just truly letting your equities run, and knowing you have that **guarantee that income coming on?

Dick: Well, Eric obviously this is what we talk to our clients about. We talk to them about balanced allocation. Not putting everything into annuities, not necessarily having everything in the market. Finding that balance that works for each individual, and so to me, he’s right along the lines of what we continue to explain to people.

Eric: Exactly, yes. He takes care of the foundation very well.

Dick: So Eric, would you say that an annuity is something that no one wants?

Eric: All right, there are a few people that want annuities.

Dick: Well, folks we’re not saying that an annuity is going to be the end-all and the be-all or exactly what you need, but you do want to look at it closely and determine where it might fit into your overall financial picture. We really appreciate you spending the time with us, today.

Eric: You have a great afternoon.

Why are Hybrid Annuities so Popular?

August 31, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

What made fixed index annuities and hybrid annuities the fastest growing annuity type on the market according to a LIMRA report? Why would you consider a hybrid annuity when planning your retirement? Dick and Eric look at hybrid annuities and what makes them so special.

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What are Hybrid Annuities?

Hybrid annuities, also referred to as hybrid income annuities, are essentially a type of insurance contract allowing the account owner to allocate his or her assets into a fixed annuity with a market benchmark component, having an income rider or riders that give substantial present or future **guarantees to secure a variety of retirement objectives.

These annuities refer to a combination of several unique aspects of various types of annuities that have been combined. Technically, a hybrid annuity is a fixed index annuity with an innovative new generation income rider attached to it.

Some hybrid annuities can help to resolve the concerns with regard to other needs in addition to asset growth and retirement income––such as long-term care funding or wealth transfer to heirs––while still providing one with a secure income. These annuities are considered by many to be the answer to satisfying a combination of retirement objectives combined into one solution, thus having the potential to solve several issues in retirement.

Obtaining a hybrid annuity essentially works the same way that you choose any annuity, in that making an allocation begins by choosing the hybrid annuity after comparing rates, features and ratings that meet key retirement objectives and then funding the hybrid annuity contract with a licensed agent as the final step.

With some hybrids, if funds are required for needs such as long-term care, with certain hybrid annuities, owners can have access to withdrawals for that purpose by way of an accelerated cash account payout or a **guaranteed increased income payout, in some cases for as long as it is needed. However, if they do not need the funds for that purpose, they will receive their lifetime **guaranteed retirement income just as it was structured or use the annuity for moderate growth as a secure asset foundation to balance their portfolio.

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: We’re going to talk about hybrid annuities today. We’ve have a lot of different subjects, and a lot of times, Eric, we touch on hybrid annuities. But let’s talk about why they’re so popular and maybe, before we actually get into that, let’s talk about what they are.

Eric: Oh sure. I was ready to talk about why they’re so popular. What is a hybrid annuity? People call up and say, “Well, I’ve been talking to this guy about a hybrid annuity.

Eric: Then the first thing I do is I say, “Stop,” because hybrid unfortunately has become a marketing term for a lot of individuals.

Dick: A hybrid annuity, to us, is the fixed index or fixed annuity, usually with an indexing component, and then it has a rider typically that **guarantees income for life. These are like the newer, more innovative income riders. I know you run into this. I run into it. Folks will start describing a variable annuity^# to me, and they’ll start saying it’s a hybrid. They may have just confused it with a hybrid, or they may have been told it’s a hybrid.

Eric: In all fairness to the variable annuity^#, it was really the first one to have those riders that would give income for life.

Dick: That’s true.

Eric: So if you think of just that rider being that contextual piece that makes it more of a hybrid. Well, in my mind those pieces were always part of the variable. They weren’t part of the fixed. So the fixed has kind of morphed its way, to use a different term I guess, into that variable.

Dick: How long has it been that fixed annuities? I’m going back I would say . . .

Eric: I’m much too young to know.

Dick: I would say that it was about somewhere seven years ago that the riders on the fixed annuities really started to pick up steam. And like you say, on the variable annuities^#, they’d already been kind of a mainstay for the variable annuities^#.

Eric: Right. I think what they saw was the variable annuity^# market had a lot of traction. People really appreciated for life without having to give up their assets.

Dick: Without annuitizing

Eric: Right, annuitizing. And that’s where we always talk about the immediate annuities, that’s the component they have. You can get income for life, but you have to give up your assets. So why people are attracted and what makes hybrid annuities so popular is that aspect of, basically, income for life **guarantees without having to give up your assets. You can still pass on money to heirs. You can still change your mind. You have majority access as we like to say.

Dick: Yes, or majority control.

Eric: Majority control. So the aspect of the hybrid annuity is actually very popular for those specific reasons right now. The other thing I see right now, especially in today’s economy, when you look at where rates are, as far as what’s being paid on the growth side, not extremely attractive.

Dick: It’s not very good. It kind of goes back to the bank CD rates, savings rates, and money markets are all effected typically by the ten year Treasury, and we have that same effect on the annuities. If we said they’re paying double what the banks pay, it’s still not very much.

Eric: No. Two times nothing is still nothing.

Dick: Exactly. So you might be looking at a 2% to 3% range maybe on a fixed annuity or even a fixed index annuity. And yet, on a recent report, Eric, that we were just talking about, the LIMRA Report, it showed that people purchasing annuities, those sales are down pretty dramatically, except for the fixed index, which is what we consider the hybrid.

Eric: Which is the base of the hybrid.

Dick: Exactly. And let’s just say that for the sake of conversation, folks, in today’s annuity world, the mainstream hybrid annuity is considered the fixed indexed annuity with one of the newer income riders on it. So just for the sake of clarification, when you’re speaking with people, you really have to clarify terms. Ninety percent of what’s talked about on the Internet and what’s talked about, advisor to client and advisor to advisor, is a hybrid annuity is a fixed annuity with a newer, innovative type income rider on it.

Eric: That’s right. And those are the pieces right now that are for the upcoming retirees, basically or near retirees, as I like to think of them. That’s what makes it really attractive, because those companies are still providing some of those **guarantees in deferral for the growth component on those hybrid annuities.

That’s the other aspect of that income rider usually. It’s I’m going to **guarantee a certain percentage of growth in deferral. Right now, we’ve got in the range of 4%, 5%, 6%, 7% still available in that deferred growth. So for somebody who’s thinking about retiring in the next five to seven years, if you’re uncomfortable with what you think is going to happen in the market necessarily and you want that **guarantee, it’s **guaranteed and predictable. Those are two aspects that give near retirees comfort.

Dick: Well, and this is where, when we go back and we compare it to the variable annuity^# and we say sales are down in variable annuities^#, and yet they’re up in indexed annuities, there’s not as much potential on an indexed annuity for growth. People aren’t interested today so much in potential and growth as they are in **guarantees.

Eric: Safety and **guarantees.

Dick: Safety and **guarantee of principal, and I also say there’s one more factor that makes these so popular and that is cash flow, because we spend our life, our careers building our money up and saving, and we look at growth. So we’re accumulating net money. But what are we accumulating it for?

Eric: To spend it.

Dick: We need to spend it, effectively and efficiently, and that’s what the hybrid annuity does, is it allows you to know what type of cash flow you’re going to have throughout your retirement, to ladder it, stage it, cover some inflation hedge aspects. I believe that’s what’s driving the popularity of this hybrid annuity.

Eric: Yes, I would agree. I would say 90% of the questions I get about annuities are about hybrid annuities. When I talk to people, I say the best thing about a hybrid you work backwards. Tell me what income you want and when you want it, and I can use a hybrid annuity . . .

Dick: And we’ll tell you the least amount of money to put in to get there.

Eric: To get there. People are like, “Yes, that’s what I want. I want that predictability, reliability, and **guarantees, those contractual **guarantees.”

Dick: So, folks, we hope that this has cleared up some of your concerns and potential misconceptions, or confirmed the things that you already know about a hybrid annuity. It’s very much a part of the financial planning community today and what’s being used and what’s effective. Anything that we can do to give you more clarity and maybe some direction on these hybrid annuities, we’ll be glad to do it.

Eric: And hopefully we explained why they’re so popular right now.

Dick: Yes.

Eric: Thanks for tuning us in.

Dick: Thank you.

Why You Should Ladder Annuities…

June 22, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

When your financial advisor starts to talk to you about laddering, realize that they are talking to you about using financial products with varying maturities and that they are most likely not thinking about a trip to the hardware store.

In today’s low interest rate environment laddering annuities allows clients to potentially capitalize on increasing rates without forgoing returns that can only be obtained by committing to a longer maturity period. Laddering provides an opportunity for conversion of shorter maturity annuities to better options if they are available earlier – then the maturities continue to provide that option on a regular ongoing basis.

Perhaps the best option to ladder annuities is by staggering deferred hybrid annuities for future income. By laddering hybrid annuities you can create a income stream that will combat inflation and provide for added flexibility with future income. It can also be an excellent strategy for financial security should you live a longer then expected life.

Eric and Dick break down some of the pros and cons for laddering annuities.

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Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. During this segment, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.

See how Scott Bulmer and Kevin Hedstrom address this same topic in a recent issue of Life Health Pro.

Customize Annuity Options With Laddering

As an agent who has worked with hundreds of clients to help them build and protect their retirement nest eggs, I am now faced with helping my clients make the dramatic shift from the wealth management phase (gathering and growing assets) to the income management phase (preserving and distributing assets). With 78 million baby boomers racing toward—or already in—retirement, the need for retirement income protection has never been greater.

It’s been well documented that since Jan 1, 2011, about 10,000 baby boomers have and will continue to turn 65 each day. This demographic phenomenon forces our industry to be the catalyst in moving clients’ mindset from accumulation to income distribution strategies. Our retiree clients now need to draw down their assets to generate a reliable, secure income stream that will allow them to maintain the lifestyle they so desire during their retirement years.

With the latest gyrations in the stock market, historically low interest rates and the economic turmoil here and abroad still fresh in their minds; clients are looking for less risky solutions to creating a secure retirement income combined with growth potential. Those clients nearing or in retirement can’t afford to weather another pullback in the market as was experienced several years ago. They just don’t have the time horizon or risk tolerance to recover unless they want to continue working throughout their retirement. In addition to market shifts, we are dealing with traditional safe money alternatives, such as CDs, money market funds and saving accounts, that may be out of favor due to these low rates.

Fixed indexed annuities as a solution

All of these forces—demographic and economic—pose an interesting challenge to agents. The major risks facing senior clients today are:

Market risk—The ongoing volatility in the stock market
Inflation risk—The erosion of one’s purchasing power
Longevity risk—The increase in life expectancy

The average individual’s lifespan has increased markedly over the last 50 years, and people now have to worry about running out of money before they run out of time.

A product solution to mitigate these risks that I’ve incorporated in my practice is the fixed indexed annuity. Since their introduction in 1995, indexed annuities have given people the opportunity to participate in the upside of being linked to an index, such as the S&P 500, without having to worry about losing money. Clients are very receptive to the dual nature of this product, which, at its core, is an insurance contract. They get the opportunity to partake in the upside potential of the stock market, with the **guarantee they won’t lose money. In addition, over the years, these products have performed as they were designed to. [Read More…]

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: One of the things that Eric and I find ourselves involved in a lot of times with annuities is laddering those annuities.

Eric: Right. It’s a technique or a strategy that we employ that uses multiple annuities with basically different maturity dates. So you would start with perhaps a three-year or a five-year or a ten-year, different layers.

Dick: I think a lot of folks, Eric, are familiar with CDs. You’re familiar with CD laddering. You may not have called it laddering, but staging your CDs over a period of time.

Eric: Staging or staggering.

Dick: It works very well for annuities for different reasons.

Eric: Right. Well, what are some of those reasons? Safety because you could use three different companies.

Dick: Diversification helps with that safety.

Eric: Right. Then you’ve also got return.

Dick: If you’re wanting to grow your money. We’re in a very low interest rate environment. So what do we think is going to happen maybe over the next three to six to eight years?

Eric: We expect interest rates to rise because they’re at all-time lows. They’re almost at zero in the case of the Fed rate.

Dick: Sure.

Eric: So we expect to see growth. But what do you do now? In order to get the biggest return right now, you have to commit to seven, eight, nine, or ten years.

Dick: It’s a pretty long period of time. Right.

Eric: Is it a smart decision to say, “I want to put all my money in a ten year product right now,” knowing that rates are likely to go up in say three or four years?

Dick: It probably isn’t if you’re looking for growth.

Eric: Right. But are you willing to sacrifice three years of growth just waiting?

Dick: Well, the alternative to that though, Eric, is if we don’t do anything, we get no return at all.

Eric: Well, actually we lose money.

Dick: We lose money because of inflation.

Eric: Inflation.

Dick: Exactly.

Eric: Yeah, exactly. By looking at, in the case of return, staggering those things. Monies are coming due at various intervals. It gives you that. The one thing I like to use annuities for in laddering is the income riders and the income **guarantees.

Dick: Right, which is a completely different way of looking at annuities and using them, but it’s been very effective for our clients.

Eric: The strength of an annuity right now, especially the hybrid annuities, is the **guarantees for income and deferral. You still have the five, six, or seven percent out there that you can get in a deferred for income. If you use a stage one annuity, perhaps turn income on right away knowing that you’ve got this **guarantee in deferral, your stage two or the second rung of the ladder you can turn on.

Dick: This helps us to offset inflation, because we know that, initially, we can start off with an income that would be adequate for that time period, but that we’re going to need to supplement that income five years, eight years, or ten years down the line. The next annuity kicks in at that stage, which is laddered.

Eric: Exactly. The it’s even nice to have an optional rung that may sit out there that you may never even anticipate turning it on. But if you have longevity that you don’t either anticipate or something happens, you’ve got that third one out there that’s in deferral getting those **guarantees. So it becomes that additional rung.

Dick: Right. It can pass on to the heirs, or you can turn it on if you need it. One of the things that we really don’t know right now is what is going to happen to certain pensions, what cutbacks or things might happen with Social Security. So it’s nice to have that contingency, that annuity out there that’s going long term.

Eric: Right, and it’s nice to have one that’s especially geared for growth. You know that it’s going to be at this level here, this level here, and this level here. The **guarantees, having those **guarantees out there.

Dick: When would it maybe not make sense to ladder?

Eric: Not use a ladder? Well, obviously if you have limited assets. There are just times when there are minimum deposit requirements, and if you have limited assets, you may only have an option of one annuity. That’s one.

Dick: Sure. When we say “limited assets,” maybe $100,000 or $200,000, somewhere in that neighborhood? I guess it depends on the income that you need. It depends on the growth that you need.

Eric: Right, it depends on all that.

Dick: I do know that the more money that you have, folks, especially when you start getting up there in the $400,000 to a million or a million plus, it makes a lot of sense to ladder and diversify as compared to maybe below $400,000. There can be some good reasons to still ladder and still diversify, but you have to look at it a little closer.

Eric: Right. One of the things we run into a lot is much of the time you’ll see one specific annuity that performs best for somebody’s situation, and there’s just not another comparable piece that does the same thing.

Dick: So the tradeoff is to get the diversification, the safety, and the laddering that maybe you’re looking for, you have to take considerably less in benefits.

Eric: It’s simply deciding to take a pay cut. If you value the other things you get in the willingness to take a pay cut, that’s what that balance is.

Dick: Then there are, again, some annuities out there, on the growth stage where it’s not just income or the pay cut, where they give a really nice death benefit. On top of that death benefit, they will give a nice return, so that you would maybe have the potential to see somewhere between a 6% to a 10% return from a very safe position with your assets. It may be a situation where a person would say, “Hey, because I want this to go onto my heirs, I don’t really need to ladder it,” depending on the amount of money.

Eric: It’s the **guarantees. You are getting a contractual **guarantee in this case from an annuity that is superior to something else that’s offered by anybody. It’s if you’re willing to take less and go here and split them, that’s an option. If you know your best circumstances lays right here, sometimes you’ll decide not to ladder.

Dick: I would say, just for folks as we kind of wind things up here, that in most cases the laddering is a good thing, works, and should be looked at. Occasionally, though, it’s not. I mean occasionally you’re going to want to go with one company that gives you the greatest benefit, and it isn’t going to make as much sense to ladder.

Eric: The best way to say this is, “You know what? Sit down with someone who can run the numbers for you, talk to them about what the pros and the cons are, and then ultimately you get to make the decision.” Now, I think it should always be one of the things that’s part of the consideration and part of the discussion. For most advisors, that’s exactly how they’ll present it: Here’s option one, here’s option one and two, and here’s how that works out.

Dick: Right. What are you comfortable with?

Eric: Exactly. Where is your comfort level? You’re in control.

Dick: Right. Pick what’s best for you.

Eric: Exactly. Thanks for checking us out.

Dick: Thank you.

Annuity Timing – Jump in or Wait?

June 1, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

Annuity Guys®, Dick and Eric examine the question on the mind of many people when comes to selecting an annuity in today’s depressed rate environment – should I jump in now or should I wait?

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Read the article that stimulated this weeks topic…

Why Indexed Annuities Keep Charging Ahead

In the first quarter, indexed annuities topped the charts in sales growth among all annuity lines as compared to first quarter 2011.

The sales volume still did not surpass that of more traditional annuity products, such as variable annuities^# and fixed deferred annuities, but in terms of sales growth, the products were definitely the leader of the pack, and by a substantial margin.

What’s behind it? The answer is in the sales results themselves.

The sales results

First quarter indexed annuity sales reached $8.1 billion — up 14 percent compared to first quarter 2011, according to estimates from LIMRA. AnnuitySpecs.com is reporting similar results — first quarter sales of $8 billion in 2012, up by more than 13 percent from first quarter last year.

The differences in results reported by the two firms are not significant, given that the firms have slightly different lists of participating companies as well as different research parameters and definitions.

But the double-digit growth that both firms identified is significant, especially when viewed against the performance of other annuity product lines. For example, total variable annuity^# sales fell by 7 percent in first quarter 2012 compared to first quarter last year, according to LIMRA. That was on first quarter 2012 sales of $36.8 billion.

In addition, total fixed annuity sales fell by 10 percent on first quarter sales of $18 billion, LIMRA says. That was despite the two-digit jump in sales of indexed annuities, which are included in the fixed total.

The total fixed annuity plunge was a result of sales declines in most fixed annuity categories that LIMRA tracks other than indexed annuities. These other categories include fixed rate deferred annuities (down 28 percent on sales of $7.1 billion compared to first quarter last year), book value annuities (down 32 percent on sales of $5.8 billion), and fixed deferred annuities (down 11 percent on sales of $15.2 billion). Fixed immediate annuities were the only products to flatline, coming in at 0 percent gain on sales of $1.8 billion.

AnnuitySpecs points out that first quarter indexed annuity sales did lag the previous quarter by 3 percent. But Sheryl J. Moore sees the product’s 13 percent increase over first quarter sales last year as the more compelling figure. Moore is president and CEO of Moore Market Intelligence, which owns AnnuitySpecs.com.

“No other lifetime income product is as strategically positioned to thrive in this low-interest rate environment. In fact, the indexed annuity is well-suited for any market environment,” Moore said in releasing her firm’s first quarter numbers.

LIMRA portrays indexed annuity sales as “the driving force in the fixed market” for the first quarter, and points out that for the third consecutive quarter, the products “outperformed traditional fixed annuities, capturing 45 percent of the fixed annuity market.” [Read More…]

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Eric: We’re going to talk about annuity timing. Should you jump in or wait?

Dick: Well, that’s the big question. Do we jump in or do we wait and that’s a question we hear all the time.

Eric: We’re hearing it a lot.

Dick: Recently.

Eric: Especially even with people we’re working with in the last couple weeks, because things are changing. The market is changing, but why is the market changing?

Dick: Well, I think it has something to do with the government forcing these interest rates down.

Eric: Uncle Ben, are you doing it to us again?

Dick: These treasuries are setting new records on the downside, literally daily. So this is really making a difference and putting a lot of pressure on the annuity companies, and obviously banking instruments too, to lower rates dramatically.

Eric: Right. I mean we look at what has happened and I’m going to blame Europe, because they’re not here in the room with us, but the pressures of what’s happening with Greece and Spain and the euro and the flight to safety has been the flight to the United States. Bring us all your dollars, your euros, your yen. We’ll take them all and it’s pushing down the fed, the 10-year treasury is down 25%, from the beginning, just a couple of months ago.

Dick: So the big question gets down to do we jump in and do an annuity now for timing issues or do we wait for the rates to increase? Just recently, Bernanke has indicated that we’re likely to see this low rate environment, for three to five years. It wasn’t very long ago he was talking about the next year or two.

Eric: Yeah, it started it was going to be—when they started making these announcements telling us, giving us the information on how long they’re going to… it was 2013, then it became 2014, and then his latest statement is 2015. So now we’re in a—I don’t want to say **guaranteed low rate environment.

Dick: Yes, so how long do we wait for retirement? How long do we wait for these rates to change? Retirement isn’t always, say a choice. I mean there are a lot of reasons why we retire, and sometimes we just need to make that decision, because we need the income or we need the safety of the money. There are many reasons that we would move some money into an annuity.

Eric: Right and I think that’s the key. Why are you putting money into the annuity? If you need income and you don’t want to have to have that worry about outliving your money that’s where the strength of the annuity still lies. Now are we starting to see annuity companies start to pull benefits off the table?

Dick: Last week we had what three or four of them? Major companies start to pull back and just yesterday maybe, we were notified again?

Eric: I’ve seen two today of companies that have made announcements that within the next week to two weeks they are reducing their benefits.

Dick: And how many people have we met with over the past year or two that said that they were going to wait for things to go up?

Eric: Yes. I can remember two years ago when, oh my, gosh it was at 4.50% in the caps and they were like, “You know it’s going to go up to 5.0%. I’m going to wait till it’s a 5.0%.” Right now people would kill for 4.50%. So it’s trying to predict the market on that side, you just can’t do it, if you’ve got a crystal ball… What we’ve got though is we’ve got **guarantees of the fed. That’s probably not a **guarantee.

Dick: I was going to roll with you on the **guarantees. I was going a different way.

Eric: Prediction by the fed that basically, “Hey, we’re going to keep rates at a low level.” So timing-wise, do we wait? Well, if it’s income…

Dick: Then we should not wait, because the **guarantees that are offered right now on annuities for this income account, for the rollup to create a larger income in deferral is still excellent, and it’s about to take another step back.

Eric: It’s still better than what you’ll get in other areas sometimes, but the annuities excel right now with income. Guaranteeing a rollup and deferral, those are the pieces that really are superior. The lifetime income benefits versus some of the other pieces.

Dick: And if you need immediate income there is the possibility of using a hybrid, as some type of an inflation hedge or using an immediate annuity that has a **guaranteed cost of living adjustment. So there’s no reason not to consider going forward, if it’s that time to retire with immediate income or putting money aside for deferred income, because this is where the annuities really do shine.

Eric: Exactly. All right now so if I wanted to buy an annuity for growth, I’m trying to get the most bang for my buck in the sense of return, should I still buy an annuity now or should I consider other alternatives?

Dick: Yeah, we have a bridge to nowhere and we have an annuity in a package deal, right now. No, Eric. I say if you want growth we really have to think outside of the box. I think that we can still utilize safe money vehicles and use insurance companies for this, but I think that we need to be looking at more the secondary annuities, these would be like, pre-owned or pre-issued annuities, and you can find yields all over the internet.

Eric: Pre-owned, is that like buying a pre-owned car, a pre-owned annuity?

Dick: It’s certified. Actually, it is certified by the court. They’re court ordered. So they’re very, very safe. It’s backed by the insurance company, or the annuity company, the same as a standard annuity. Someone actually bought an annuity. Decided for whatever reason they did not need this annuity and they sold it on the secondary market.

And so by doing that, it can create a much higher yield. So we’ve been able to help different ones with yields in the neighborhood of between 5.0-6.0%. However right now, you see on the internet, you see advertised a lot, if you know where to look, somewhere in that 4.0-5.0% range. It just depends on the source that you have for these annuities. Another one would be that you could get growth. What would be another area?

Eric: Well, as you say, sticking with similar life insurance, in the sense of you’ve got life settlements, now. Life settlements are a little bit more unique in the sense of you’re buying life insurance that somebody decided that they didn’t need. Usually, it’s that someone purchased it and it was for a spouse and the spouse predeceased them. So they have a life policy they no longer need, so there’s more benefit to them by actually selling it on the secondary market, than cashing it out sometimes.

Dick: Right. So you know you’re going to get paid out on that and you know it’s **guaranteed by the insurance company that’s behind it, so it’s relatively safe, very safe actually.

Eric: You’re basically buying—you and usually a group of people are buying the premium. You’re paying the premium, in exchange for the death benefit, so you don’t necessarily always know when…

Dick: You never know when somebody is going to pass.

Eric: The people that underwrite these basically go in and they calculate, look at the life expectancy.

Dick: Of their life expectancy.

Eric: Usually they try to time it to 3-4-5 years, so you could expect it to happen, but you can’t **guarantee it. You’re putting this down, knowing you’re going to get this. You just don’t know how long it’s going to take.

Dick: So you always know that you’re going to have an increase in the money. You just don’t know what the percentage of the yield will be, based on the timing.

Eric: Right. You know you’re going to get the death benefit. You just don’t know when it is coming. You’ve also gotten another life insurance product. You’ve got your indexed life insurance. Now your caps there have not been impacted nearly to the extent that the annuities have. You’re still looking at caps that 12-14%.

Dick: Yes, and they’ve held up all through the whole financial crisis, so that’s again not for everyone, but it is an area where if you’ve got the right scenario, the right situation you get a pretty darn good growth on that. You do have to pass a medical audit.

Eric: Yeah, you have to be insurable or know somebody that’s insurable.

Dick: Know somebody who is insurable, right. So that’s thinking outside of the box.

Eric: There are alternatives out there, safe money alternatives.

Dick: If you want to earn somewhere in that 5.0% to maybe 7.0% range, and even in some cases it can go into the double digits, but we’re trying to be a little bit more conservative.

Eric: We’re by nature conservative.

Dick: Under, what do we call that, under promise?

Eric: Understate.

Dick: Over deliver.

Eric: That’s right.

Dick: Back to, did you have a point that you wanted to hit there, on something?

Eric: No. I was looking at the article that kind of stimulated the topic for today and talking about the changes, and what’s going on in the annuity market.

Dick: The annuity world out there.

Eric: You’re seeing a lot more of the purchases on the indexed annuity side, and I didn’t know if we were ready for the summary statement in this sense, but it’s basically looking at the changes and there are a lot more people purchasing indexed annuities.

Dick: Right, which are considered the hybrid annuity, so the fixed index annuity.

Eric: We like to personally think we’re responsible for the increases in the annuity market, but in all likelihood, probably not.

Dick: We’re rising a tide, across the nation with them.

Eric: And it’s because of one, the income riders. The ability for in retirement, and then you also have a safety of principal and a hope for gain.

Dick: Right. So you put all those factors together and compare the hybrid annuity or the indexed annuity to just a standard fixed annuity or the variable annuity^#. What we’ve seen is a great increase in the overall rate of sale, of the indexed annuity and the hybrid annuity and a decrease in the fixed annuity, which is paying very low rates right now, and also in the variable annuity^# which introduces the market risk factor.

Eric: People are agreeing with us more and more that they see the benefits of safety of principal and **guarantees, either whether it be, through just the **guarantee of not losing principal or increases in income.

Dick: Right. Well, I think we need to sum it up with—is this a good time to jump in?

Eric: Yes, and no.

Dick: He sounds like me, now.

Eric: If your timing is that you need income, if you want growth, there are vehicles out there that we would encourage you to look at.

Dick: If you want income it’s a definite, that a portion of your portfolio can go towards an annuity and the timing is probably better to move than to wait.

Eric: If you’re retiring now?

Dick: Or in the near future.

Eric: Yeah, as you say, you probably don’t have time to wait.

Dick: So that’s it for today, folks. Thank you for spending time with us.

Understanding Immediate Annuities

March 22, 2012 By Annuity Guys®

Today, people are living longer than ever before. While the idea of living a longer (and hopefully healthier) life is appealing to most of us, the tradeoff for many people is the fear of outliving their retirement savings.

On top of that, the immense costs of healthcare today––along with constantly rising inflation––continue to compound an already stressful situation for many. However, there is an option available to retirees that can help ease the stress of outliving their savings while providing them with an income stream almost immediately upon funding it. That financial vehicle is an immediate annuity.

While many annuities are created to build up the account value for retirement, an immediate annuity is actually designed to provide income immediately to its holder.

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Immediate annuities are insurance products that pay their owners a regular income––monthly, quarterly, or over another desired time frame––for as long as the annuity holder lives.

These products are essentially a contract between the annuity owner and an insurance company. They are typically purchased with a large cash lump sum by retirees in order to pay living expenses in a reliable pension style INCOME over a long period of time. In exchange for this lump sum deposit, the insurance company will provide them with a regular income for a specified time OR long as they live, regardless of how long that may be.

Plus, if it is a lifetime annuity, this benefit will continue for as long as the single or joint annuitant is living. Therefore, an immediate annuity actually pays for living a long life instead of the emphasis being on heirs receiving a large payout when the immediate annuity owner dies. It is possible for the immediate annuity owner’s heirs to receive some of the deceased owners intended income if he or she should die prematurely.

Immediate Annuity Features

Throughout the years, there have been some modifications to the original immediate annuity design. Many of these annuity features, which may or may not be available on all immediate annuities, or offered by all insurance companies, are discussed below:

Inflation protection: With this option, the immediate annuity income payments offer some form of a hedge against inflation. Here, the annuity owner may choose to have his or her income payments increase by a certain percentage each year, typically around 3 percent. Another choice may be to have the annuity income payments actually tied to an inflation rate by the use of a consumer price index. When this option is chosen the initial payout of the annuity starts lower.

Refund, liquidity, and withdrawal options: The traditional refund feature on immediate annuities has typically been either a cash refund or an installment refund that ensures after the annuity holder’s death that the beneficiary will receive an amount of money that represents the difference between the initial deposit amount and the amount of the income payments that the annuitant received during his or her life. This, however, reduces the amount of the systematic payout when comparing to life only with no beneficiary benefit.

There are several different ways to structure an immediate annuity with regard to the income payment options. These options include:

Life only: A life-only immediate annuity can also be referred to as a straight life annuity. This means that the annuitant will receive annuity income payments for the rest of his or her life, regardless of how long that duration may be. The payments will cease and all of the unused initial premium will be to the insurance company’s benefit or detriment based upon the annuitant’s actual death and life expectancy underwriting calculations.

Certain period: This structure is not considered to be a life annuity. Rather, the annuity payments will only go on for a fixed period of time, such as for ten years. Even if the annuitant is still living at the end of the stated time period, the annuity payments will cease at that time. However, should the annuitant pass away within that time period, the beneficiary will continue to receive the payments until the period of time has expired.

Life with period certain (or certain and life): This type of immediate annuity payment structure is a combination of both the life and the certain period structures, meaning the annuity will pay income benefits to the annuitant for as long as he or she lives. However, if the annuitant passes away during a specified period of time, say ten years, then the beneficiary will continue to receive income payments from the annuity until the end of that ten-year time period.

Life with cash refund: This can be considered a money-back **guarantee annuity. The income benefit payout is for life. However, if the annuitant passes away before the payments that total at least the amount of premium paid, then a lump sum payment is made to the annuitant’s beneficiary.

Life with installment refund: This, too, can be considered a money-back **guarantee annuity. This immediate annuity payout option is similar to the life with cash refund option, except the annuitant’s beneficiary will continue to receive the monthly annuity income instead of a lump sum until the full amount of the premium has been paid out.

Joint and survivor: This annuity income payout option will **guarantee that the income payments will continue for the lives of both annuitants. Along with this, period certain options can also be added. This particular payout option is typically used with married couples in order to provide income as long as either one of them is still alive. In some instances, the income benefit may drop when the first spouse passes away.

COLA SPIA: This annuity income payout structure has payments that increase or decrease by a floating percentage which fluctuates when tied to a consumer price index, each year. In this case, however, the initial income benefit will likely be lower than those that are non-COLA (cost of living adjustment) annuities.

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: Today, we want to talk about immediate annuities and do a little comparison with immediate annuities and why you might consider an immediate annuity.

Eric: One of the things we often hear, in today’s world, where you have this hybrid annuity, which gives you lifetime income as well as some other bonuses/extras, why would you ever want to actually look at using an immediate annuity, where you’re going to give up your assets?

Dick: Right. That is the difference, Eric. When we think about the hybrid annuity, it’s kind of your cake and eat it too annuity, where you can get your lifetime income, but you don’t have to give up your asset. Yet, there is a place for an immediate annuity.

In fact, let’s do a little history lesson. How about some trivia here? When we think about an immediate annuity, it literally goes back to the early Roman Empire. They called it the “annua,” and that’s where the word annuity comes from. So it is a very early form of an annuity, and it has really gone through the test of time, spanned the centuries.

Eric: So next time you have your toga on, you’ll know to get your annua language out. Exactly. It’s an old standard. It was the first kind of annuity out there, the standard lifetime annuity. You gave up a lump sum, and you got a lifetime income stream.

Dick: It is probably the truest pension-style income. In fact, immediate annuities, a lot of companies will offer a choice of a lump some or an immediate annuity.

Eric: I talked about immediate annuities with a lot of clients, when they were saying, “Hey, I’ve got a 401(k). I want a lifetime income. What can I do to get my own personal pension?” That’s kind of how we think of it. The thing is you’re usually giving up that 401(k) in exchange for that lifetime income stream. Now, the big thing here is you realize that none of those dollars are going on to heirs.

Dick: Yes. Well, in a true pension, there’s no money in a pension, as a rule. When you have a pension, when you pass, the money ends, or if you’ve chosen a survivorship option, you’ve probably taken a little bit lower payment on your pension, and then some of those payments will go on to perhaps a spouse.

Eric: Exactly. When I grew up, my parents were educators. So they had a traditional kind of benefit program, where they have a retirement that’s there as long as they live. The bad thing is, once they’re gone, nothing goes on to me. Being a little self-serving here now. The 401(k) plan . . .

Dick: Why didn’t they get a hybrid annuity?

Eric: Exactly. Why can’t they get a hybrid annuity? So when they’re looking at it, that’s the old style. The hybrid, on the other hand, allows you to pass some of those dollars on to heirs typically.

Dick: Right. So, really, where the immediate annuity fits, let’s just give some examples. Someone who really wants to start income right now.

Eric: With an traditional immediate annuity, typically you’re going to get a higher payout than you would with a hybrid. You’re going to start with a little bit higher. . .

Dick: Typically. But we have seen a few instances where . . . you’ve got to run some illustrations to know.

Eric: Exactly. So that’s one of the things that when people are going that direction, that’s usually the reason.

Dick: General assumption is you’re going to get more income.

Eric: A little bit more. A higher percentage to start with.

Dick: Right. Then the other key factor would be that, perhaps, if you’re going to use an immediate, you really aren’t as concerned about giving money over to heirs.

Eric: Right. Are there ways to get money on to either survivors or heirs? That’s one of the things we . . .

Dick: With an immediate?

Eric: An immediate annuity. You can structure it so that it’s a joint lifetime payout. So if you and a spouse purchase an immediate annuity, you can set it up so that it is the lifetime of both of you or either of you. Whoever lives the longest, those payments will continue. There are little tweaks that you can even do there, where you can set it up so that once one passes, it sometimes reduces by a percentage.

Dick: A percentage, so they only get three-quarters or one half of the annuity.

Eric: Right. The other way that you can somewhat pass on dollars to heirs is there are a couple of things. You can do a period certain, where it’s lifetime with a certain number of years **guaranteed. A lot of times you’ll see somebody do a lifetime annuity with 20 years **guaranteed. So that 20 years of payments is **guaranteed.

Dick: So if I pass in 5 years, somebody is going to get another 15 years of payments. But what does that do to my income?

Eric: It’s going to reduce your payments. You have to realize going in, if your goal is the highest payout possible, you don’t want to add any of these other pieces. But if you’re wanting to try to pass on money to somebody, that’s a way of **guaranteeing basically that some of that comes back. One of the things I always look at is either the installment refund or the cash refund, which says once you purchase the immediate annuity, if you haven’t gotten back at least what you paid in principal wise, that amount will be refunded either to your heirs or to your estate.

Dick: Well, isn’t that the installment refund?

Eric: The installment refund keeps the payments coming back to your return of principal.

Dick: Okay. So you’re talking about the full lump sum.

Eric: Yes, just a refund of whatever you’ve put in, so it’s either a lump sum or installment refund.

Dick: One of the biggest vulnerabilities that Eric and I look at with our clients, and what we think you should be concerned about, is inflation. That is probably one of the biggest vulnerabilities we face. We have had historic inflation the last 4 decades of over 4%. We believe that the stage is really set for some higher inflation over the next two or three decades, which is going to cover most retirees. So if we would happen to go through a stretch of 4% or 5% – I’m not talking about runaway hyper third world country inflation – but if we’re talking 4%, 4.5%, 5%, 6% inflation, that makes that immediate annuity, if you have no inflation cost of living adjustment, a COLA on it, it really puts you at a disadvantage.

Eric: Yes, especially if you’ve got longevity in what you’re looking at. You realize you’re taking a level payment and you’re stretching it over your lifetime. So your purchasing power is going to diminish with inflation.

Dick: Right. So one of the things that we do suggest, very strongly, is that whatever type of annuity, whether it’s an immediate annuity, a hybrid annuity, a deferred annuity where you’re deferring it for a long time, that you’re really taking inflation into account. There are different ways to structure for inflation, but if you’re not taking it into account, you’re really setting yourself up for a bad situation.

Eric: Right. That’s another aspect that you can add to an immediate annuity. Some of them you can add a cost of living adjustment. Others have a fixed percentage.

Dick: Tied to a consumer price index or a fixed percentage.

Eric: So those are things you can add, but you realize you’re going to start lower.

Dick: Your payments are going to start lower. Right.

Eric: So it’s all about the tradeoffs.

Dick: I love the idea of a real cost of living adjustment. So if things get carried away and we start seeing 5% or 6% inflation, we’ve covered a major vulnerability in a retirement plan.

Eric: Yes. That’s what we’re looking at here. When we’re looking at immediate annuities, we’re looking at you creating your own personal pension.

Dick: Yes, that’s right.

Eric: If you’re into this marketplace, where you’re going to create a personal pension, and you have that magic number you know that you need to hit and you can anticipate the growth, that’s where this product really comes in.

Dick: So if we’re to kind of wind up this discussion on immediate annuities, being a true pension-style income, where would we summarize that this is going to fit? What type of person should buy an immediate annuity, should really consider it for their retirement portfolio?

Eric: I always say it’s someone with no heirs, that doesn’t have to worry about passing on dollars to somebody in the future. They’re not worried about that. They want the highest payout now, and that’s really the person that I start with.

Dick: Right. I think that, in winding this up, we just want to say, do a fair comparison. You may be the ideal person for an immediate annuity, but get with a professional advisor, run some illustrations, compare it. We have actually seen situations where a hybrid annuity can right off the bat outperform an immediate annuity. It’s not often, but it does happen.

Eric: Yes. Very good.

Dick: Thank you.

What are Hybrid Annuities?

December 16, 2011 By Annuity Guys®

Hybrid annuities, also referred to as hybrid income annuities, are essentially a type of annuity contract that allows the account owner to tie the growth of his or her assets into market benchmark (i.e. Dow Jones IA, S&P 500, NASDAQ 100), with an income rider or riders.

On the most basic level, a hybrid annuity is a fixed index annuity with an income rider attached to it.

Hybrid annuities can help to resolve the concerns of retirement income by offering **guaranteed annuity rates for growth on annuity income accounts. They also such as long-term care funding––while still providing one with a regular income. These annuities have the potential to solve several types of needs in retirement.

A hybrid annuity essentially works the same way that a regular annuity does, in that making an allocation begins by choosing the hybrid annuity that meets key retirement objectives and then funding the hybrid annuity contract with a licensed agent is the final step.

Dick and Eric look at the Hybrid Annuity in this short video explanation.

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Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: And folks as you can see at this point, we’re going to go into one more type of annuity here, which is really no annuity at all. It’s a combination of all the above, but as you can see, every annuity has so many different aspects and there are good aspects to each annuity that you really want to think this through.

You want to put some real thought into it. You want to work with an expert that can help you think through all of the variables, and the possibilities and really zero in on, what really is going to work best for you, what’s going to be most suitable. And maybe, as Eric said earlier, it’s no annuity at all.

However, annuities do answer some important questions to secure retirement, securing retirement income and one of the things that we want to talk about here, to just kind of wind it up is something that you’ll find terms over the internet and different ones that are talking about it, and that is a hybrid annuity, and what is different about a hybrid annuity? Eric, I’ve been talking here again. I’m getting you starting on everything. Go ahead let’s start off on a hybrid.

Eric: The hybrid annuity and again, we’re building here so you’ve got your fixed index chassis. Now when you start adding income riders onto a fixed annuity. . .

Dick: Right. And I think that’s, I just want to kind of zero in on that point you made, and that is that it is a fixed annuity. So first of all, we’ve got safety. It’s a fixed annuity then it’s indexed, so we add the indexing option.

Eric: That’s one of the options. You can also take that **guaranteed number. . .

Dick: Just a fixed…

Eric: … is just a fixed return. So those are all pieces, it’s that fixed annuity chassis, and then you’re going to add on top of it, usually the key component is the income rider. So we’re adding an income rider which gives us some of that immediate annuity flavor.

Dick: An income rider **guarantees.

Eric: Right, so what’s the one thing we love about an immediate annuity? It’s that income **guaranteed for life. Now wouldn’t we like to get that for life, without having to give up the lump sum?

Dick: Yes.

Eric: And that’s where the hybrid comes in. It’s that contractual income for life **guarantee, but without having to give up access to the whole.

Dick: Eric, and in our experience and I’m just going to throw the question to you. I could answer it, but in our experience how close can we come with the hybrid annuity, to matching the income of an immediate annuity, where we’re **guaranteeing it for life.

Eric: We come very close typically. There’s usually a couple percentage points difference. Where that fudge factor comes in per se is how long is it going to be in deferral? How long are you going to live?

Dick: What’s the age of the person?

Eric: Right, there are unknown variables that come into play, but the nice thing is we are able to **guarantee, typically a lifetime income higher than you would get, if you just left your money in liquid assets…

Dick: Oh, absolutely

Eric: … that you pulled out, because with a degree of certainty with an annuity you’re going to get that lifetime income. With the liquid assets you have to kind of take the ups and downs of the market and have that little bit more uncertainty. So this income rider…

Dick: You don’t have the contractual **guarantees that the annuity will give.

Eric: … will still give you access to the cash, the majority of your cash. I would say is probably the best way to think of it, with also using those life terms.

Dick: And that’s what I kind of say, is having your cake and eating it too, because with the hybrid style of annuity you can not only **guarantee income for life, but you can pass a lot of money on to the next generation to your heirs, if you haven’t used the money all for your income. And that depends on how long you live, and how much money that you actually take out of the annuity, where with an immediate annuity you’re going to leave very little, if any to the next generation. With the hybrid annuity you could leave the majority of it depending on life expectancy and that type of thing and you can still **guarantee your income for life. So if you happen to live a long life, now it is true if you use all of that money up, because you live a long time, then you really aren’t going to have—your income is going to continue as long as you live.

Eric: It’s an annuity, long time income.

Dick: But you won’t pass money on, because you’ve used it up.

Eric: If you spend all your money, if you drained all your savings accounts, in this case if you drained the annuity of the cash they will still pay you that income for life or whatever that contractual **guarantee amount was. Now you will not have anything to pass on to heirs, if you live long enough.

Dick: And you spend it, but they’re income will continue.

Eric: And that’s the best **guarantee you could have. You won’t out

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