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Death and taxes may be certainties of life… but it doesn’t mean we should not do all we can to delay them!

Many clients misunderstand regulations surrounding the taxable consequences when transferring funds from an employer-based retirement account such as a 401k or even an individual IRA account into an annuity. A lot of the confusion comes from how the IRS differentiates between a transfer, rollover, withdrawal or distribution. Transfers or rollovers between qualified accounts allow retirement accounts to maintain their tax deferral status; whereas withdrawing or taking a distribution from a qualified retirement account can result in a taxable consequence – with the exception on withdrawals or distributions using the IRS sixty-day rollover exemption, recently changed to only one per year!

Video: Annuity Guys® Dick & Eric discuss the complexities for avoiding tax when moving funds from a IRAs & 401Ks into an annuity.

**Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. During this segment, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.

Wonder what the alternatives might be if the government decides to increase revenues (taxes).
Most people only think about rolling over their 401(k) savings into an IRA when they change jobs. For many people, that is an ideal time to shift funds because they can consolidate several retirement accounts from previous employers in one place and take advantage of more investment options. Though there could be reasons not to do so as well.


 
Here’s an article on the Pros & cons of In-Service Distribution/Rollovers

Pros and cons of rolling over your 401(k) while still employed

When leaving an employer, there are typically four 401(k) options:

But, leaving an employer isn’t the only time you can move your 401(k) savings. Sometimes it makes sense to roll over your 401(k) assets while you continue to work and make further contributions to your company plan. These rollovers may help you more effectively manage your retirement savings and diversify your investments. It is important to really weigh the pros and cons when considering this. But first, do some checking to see if you’re eligible. Not every 401(k) plan allows you to roll over your 401(k) while you are still working.

Reasons you may want to roll over now:
1. Diversification. Investment options in your 401(k) can be limited and are selected by the plan sponsor. Rolling your funds over into an IRA can often broaden your choice of investments. More choices can mean more diversification in your retirement portfolio and the opportunity to invest in a wider range of asset classes including individual stocks and bonds, managed accounts, REITs and annuities.
2. Beneficiary flexibility. With some IRAs, you may be able to name multiple and contingent beneficiaries or name a trust as the beneficiary. Other IRAs may allow you to impose restrictions on beneficiaries. These options aren’t usually available with 401(k)s. But, keep in mind, not all IRA custodians have the same rules about beneficiaries so be sure to check carefully.
3. Ownership control. You are the owner and have access rights with an IRA. The assets in your IRA are also not subject to blackout periods. With a 401(k) plan, the qualified plan trustee owns the assets and assets may be subject to blackout periods in which account access is limited.
4. Distribution options. If your IRA is set up as a Roth IRA, there is not a set age when the owner is required to take minimum distributions. With 401(k) plans and traditional IRAs, the owner will have to take required minimum distributions by April 1 of the year after they turn age 70 ½.[Read More…


Using OutCome Based Planning™ for Your Retirement

We practice and recommend a "Holistic - OutCome Based Planning™ process when considering annuities." This approach has the effect of balancing your overall portfolio so you can meet your retirement objectives by "first identifying the least amount of your investments or savings (if any) that should be considered for annuities." OutCome Based Planning™ analyzes and models multiple outcomes so you can clearly identify your best income and growth opportunities.

"The Annuity Guys will only call if you request help". Hence, when you are ready for specialized help we will be available.
"Working with an Experienced Fiduciary Financial Planner can help you Avoid a Trial & Error or Risk Based Retirement"

This type of approach does take considerably more time, effort and analysis which will show you mathematically the successful possibilities by comparing various outcomes rather than trying to sell or convince you of that "so-called one best solution." Clients frequently tell us that this process removes some of the confusion and emotion to help them objectively identify a better retirement plan; rather than just ending up with the most convincing salesperson or advisor.

When requesting help you can be assured of working with an experienced Annuity Guys' Retirement Planner who is independently insurance licensed and securities licensed as a fiduciary financial planner having access to the vast majority of annuity companies in helping you choose the best annuities using a holistic-outcome based planning approach. We consider the high quality advisor recommendations we make to our website visitors as a direct reflection back on our commitment to serve all client's with a high standard of excellence in financial planning for retirement.

Based on survey feedback on advisors from our website visitors, we eliminated about two-hundred local advisors and now only recommend a few that we consider experienced vetted Annuity Guys' Fiduciary Advisors. Many local advisors continue requesting us to recommend them as a vetted advisor. However, our reputation and future business is driven only by satisfied website visitors. So, unfortunately we've had to tell the vast majority of local advisors no, since we changed our business model four years ago. At that time we stopped trying to satisfy everyone with local advisors, we now primarily work with individuals who are comfortable using today's internet technology to their fullest advantage by working with a select group of vetted, experienced and knowledgeable Annuity Guys' Fiduciary Planners.


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Selecting the Best Annuity & Retirement Income Advisor

Are you willing to work with one of our retirement and annuity advisors based on their experience and expertise as a first priority rather than being limited by a local or regional area? The good news is that technology has forever eliminated our geographical limitations and leveled the playing field for everyone! As a result of today's technological advances, all of us can now work confidently with experts in any field including personal finance. We are no longer confined by regional or local boundaries limiting our choices and ultimate success. A high quality advisor is now as close as a click or phone call away.

Video:"Choose a National or Local Advisor"?
"There is no room for trial and error when it comes to choosing MarketFree® Annuities or a Successful Retirement Planner."
When you think about it, your money is almost always in some other state with a custodian; whether invested in the market or with an annuity insurance company, the advisors competence is primarily needed when positioning your money initially. So working with a specialized expert in a financial discipline like investments or retirement planning is imperative. There are no undo buttons in retirement! Once the annuities get set up correctly, it is customary and more efficient for owners to benefit by having direct access to the issuer instead of having to go through the agent. And, of course any reputable advisor, local or national, is more than willing to assist their clients if needed after they are implemented.
Video:"Why These 3 Types of Annuity Advisors are Not Created Equal"
"There are no undo buttons in retirement so it is vitally important that you do it right the first time!"

We are fortunate to have a select few who we believe are truly the highest qualified advisors out of about two hundred licensed insurance agents that we eliminated. Your survey feedback is what helps us make these tough decisions. Our advisors have an independent financial practice, specializing in annuities and retirement planning, which helps ensure that you are given the best options available for your retirement planning.

Video: "How Much of Your Money Should You Consider Placing into Annuities"?
"It takes an experienced expert to know how to structure annuities for income, inflation, growth, return of principal, and tax advantage."

"Anyone can sell you an annuity; however, it takes a truly qualified and experienced advisor to know how to structure them for income, inflation, growth, return of principal, and tax advantage. Typically, there is not just one that can accomplish all of these objectives. It is how an advisor structures multiple annuities in balancing your total portfolio that makes it possible to achieve your most important retirement objectives."

Video: "How to Choose a Great retirement Advisor"?

Why Searching for the Best Annuities on Your Own Can be so Frustrating...

Almost everyone nowadays turns to the internet for answers on everything - from buying new widgets to researching just about everything under the sun; and finding the best annuity is no exception! At first, it may seem that researching will be straightforward but the more time you spend researching them, the more frustrating it can be. Why is this? First of all, it does not take long to realize that gimmicks abound - such as warnings and alerts from salesmen who just want your attention so they can sell you one or the "too good to be true" claims of 8% to 14% **guaranteed interest and of course the claim that you can get the full market upside with no downside risk! If you have done any research you have heard all of these claims in advertising which are mostly half truths and not fully explained. So how can you find the best annuities on the internet? The truth is... you can't! And what is even more frustrating is all the conflicting points of view from so called experts. There are well over 6,000 different annuities - all designed for different reasons, so is it any wonder that the deck is stacked against the average researcher or do-it-yourselfer. Add to that the fact that they pay high enough commissions to attract a plethora of both good and bad agents. This does not make annuities good or bad; they are simply a financial tool that truly benefit those who use them correctly. How can you find the best annuities for your unique situation?
  • Use the internet cautiously;
  • Work with a vetted and experienced specialist;
  • Do not settle for that one dubious best plan. Compare multiple Outcome Based Plans to decide on the one that is truly best for you;
  • Be keenly aware of scare tactics and hyperbole - avoid those advisors and websites;
  • Avoid websites that are focused on rushing free reports, rates and quotes to get your contact information they are rushing you to speak with them, instead, take your time and choose someone you are more comfortable with that works on your time-table;
  • Know the Five Vital Factors (listed above) that an experienced specialist must answer before helping you select the best options for your situation;
  • Watch this telling video "Avoid Annuity Gimmicks, Amateurs and Charlatans"...


Video: "Avoiding Gimmicks, Scams & Charlatans"

  ** Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. Annuities are not FDIC insured and it is possible to lose money.
They are insurance products that require a premium to be paid for purchase.
Annuities do not accept or receive deposits and are not to be confused with bank issued financial instruments.
During all video segments, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.


  *Retirement Planning and annuity purchase assistance may be provided by Eric Judy or by referral to a recommended, experienced, Fiduciary Investment Advisor in helping our website visitors. Dick Van Dyke semi-retired from his Investment Advisory Practice in 2012 and now focuses on this website. He still maintains his insurance license in good standing and assists his current clients.
Our vetted and recommended Fiduciary Financial Planners are required to be properly licensed in assisting clients with their annuity and retirement planning needs. (Due diligence as a client is still always necessary when working with any advisor to check their current standing.)




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U.S. to sue S&P over Ratings – that was this years’ February 5th headline in the Wall Street Journal. If the federal government is suing a ratings agency for providing overly rosy evaluations on bundled mortgage-backed securities, what does that imply for their ability to rate insurance companies?

Should we as consumers place our trust in or be guided by a third-party evaluator of annuity providers? For most of us, the answer is YES.

Ratings of insurance companies should be one of the key components of your decision when selecting an annuity provider. When you purchase a lifetime annuity, you must believe that the company will survive longer than their obligation to you.

Third party ratings provide guidance to consumers who would not otherwise have any basis on which to compare companies. Should these ratings be the sole basis for making an annuity decision? NO. History has taught us that these ratings are just one piece of the total puzzle.

Dick and Eric share their thoughts on the validity of third-party ratings of annuity providers in this weeks video.

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**Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. During this segment, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.

Still have concerns about annuities, check out this article on “How Safe are Annuities“.

How Safe Are Annuities?

Safety of money is generally relative to comparing levels of risk between Government backed, insurance backed or individual securities investment risk.

In regard to non-variable fixed annuities, State Regulation forces insurance companies to follow what is known as Statutory Accounting unlike generally acceptable accounting methods (GAAP) utilized by publicly owned corporations. Statutory accounting is a show me the money type of accounting whereby expenses are written off immediately and not capitalized to inflate profits for corporate convenience or even fraud. Most insurance carriers are also publicly traded companies that additionally must also meet GAAP standards.

Insurance institutions are required to demonstrate to state regulatory authorities that dollar for dollar a client’s money (premium) is safely on deposit in secure financial vehicles such as investment grade bonds or government bonds. In addition they are required to have reserves known as additional surplus reserves. The minimum amount of required reserves is decided based on the safety of the investments as determined by state regulators. So based on these stringent requirements insurance carriers are scrutinized and forced by law to meet and maintain a legal reserve for the safety of their clients.

Each insurance carrier is also compelled to participate in a mandated state insurance **guarantee association (SIGA) whereby insured clients have minimum **guarantees on their annuities and life insurance typically and minimally $100,000 on annuities and $300,000 on life insurance some states have higher limits. These **guarantees are not to be confused with FDIC insurance or used in marketing insurance products. The state’s first concern is the safety of the client so in the majority of situations when an insurer begins to have any serious financial concerns the state places them in receivership and transfer s ownership to a better run profitable carrier with all assets moved over from the faltering company. Thus the insured client remains whole and the **guarantee association is absolved of any liability. [Read More…]

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Dick: You’ve probably seen a lot of the news just recently about the rating agencies.

Eric: The US governments, the state governments are suing Standard & Poor’s.

Dick: The S&P 500, that’s right the rating agency.

Eric: Standard & Poor’s is on its way to writing a nice little check.

Dick: Do you think this could have something to do with them lowering the government’s credit rating?

Eric: Are you saying there’s a…

Dick: Do you think it could be a conflict of interest?

Eric: Well, speaking of conflicts of interest. This is probably the perfect introduction into our topic today, when we talk about, when we’re looking at annuities and insurance companies, the rating agencies how do they go about determining these rating agencies, and how they’re going to be selected and how their criteria is?

Dick: Well, it’s very interesting and as you read these articles about the rating agencies out there Eric, so many of them actually are paid by the folks they’re rating.

Eric: That’s exactly, so I’m an insurance company. I want to be rated. I write you a check to come in and…

Dick: To come in and rate me, right.

Eric: … look at my books. So is there a conflict of interest there, perhaps?

Dick: I think we’d have to say, yes.

Eric: Now if you’re going to give me a bad rating, wouldn’t I be better off just not having you come in and look at the books?

Dick: Well, that being the case, you would have competitors out there that would have positive ratings, and you would have poor ratings or no ratings. So you’re forced to comply. Now is that to say that, because there is this conflict of interest that exists, that you can’t rely on any ratings agencies?

Eric: No, I say this as I say it the everyman type of philosophy in the sense of, if I wanted to go in and evaluate each insurance company on my own merits where I want to walk in and say “All right, show me your books. Show me your balance sheet. I’m going to determine if this is a safe to place to put money.”

Dick: You’d have to take a battery of CPA’s and attorneys.

Eric: I don’t have the manpower. Exactly, so what we’re doing is we’re having to rely on these third party agencies, which they’ve been doing this for hundreds of years in some cases, to take a look and say all right, what is the financial status? What’s a third party review of where they’re at financially?

Dick: And if we go from the investment world, and we look at some things that have been going on, packaging the mortgages and this type of thing, the ratings agencies did miss it.

Eric: Well, and that was always the question. How could they miss it? There are some suggestions that perhaps, they didn’t even follow their own standards, when doing those evaluations. Then of course, then we hear about things in the recent past, not so recent past like Enron where they were too late to the bell, and then it even goes back to the 1970’s where New York City had its issues, and of course, the ratings agencies didn’t quite get on top of that in time.

Dick: Now I look at insurance companies a little differently and I think there’s good reason for that, and that is that state by state they have what we would call a statutory type accounting requirement where, maybe a good description would be show me the cash. In other words, they can’t use what’s the generally, acceptable accounting practices, the Gott method, which is used by corporations and that allows corporations to put these things off into the future, to hide present income or to hide present expenses to kind of cook the books. Used properly it’s fair, but if you want to cook the books you can do it sometimes.

Eric: There’s a little bit more manipulative action.

Dick: The Enron example would be good. But when it comes to insurance companies, they have to have everything transparent, out in the open in the statutory type accounting. So the third party rating agencies have quite an advantage there.

Eric: And we have a favorite, in the sense of, when we typically have a conversation with a client we tend a lot to use AM Best, because of their history with evaluating insurance companies, and that’s what you want, a consistency across time in what they invest since 1906.

Dick: They’ve been doing it for over 100 years and the thing that I like about it is that they have just a history, that when you go back and you look at companies, things don’t change fast. So a rating where a company has an A or A-plus rating, if they were to move down to maybe all the way down to a B-rating, that good take place over years and years and years. It isn’t typically anything that happens overnight.

Eric: Let’s talk about ratings and I hate to the example of one company, but it’s AIG.

Dick: Everyone knows AIG.

Eric: Everybody knows AIG. Here it is. Here’s a company that had an A-rating, on the insurance side. Now there’s always some question as to “All right, were they really in trouble,” in the sense of they’re going through a government bailout, all these things are happening.

Dick: And they were rated by AM Best, and yet even CNN reported that folks may need to be aware because of AIG going through all of this trouble, and it really had more to do with their investment side, and amazingly their insurance side was A-rated, remained A-rated, is still A-rated and very safe, and secure.

Eric: And that’s where you have to look at a company, when it’s a large company like that, that has multiple divisions. The insurance side may be a separate entity than what’s maybe getting the black marks out there.

Dick: Exactly and what would’ve actually taken place with AIG or other insurance companies is, if they really had gotten into trouble, all of the assets are there that gives them an A-rating. They would’ve been put in receivership. So a more profitable company that has economies of scale is making a profit off of their assets would have all of AIG assets moved over to them, and they would continue to operate profitably with those assets.

Eric: So I guess let’s look at this in totality now. So if I’m somebody coming in looking at annuities can I rely on these third party ratings, effectively, to help me judge what something is going to be a good choice for me.

Dick: I think the answer to that is, yes.

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Annuities vs (IUL) Indexed Universal Life – How do they compare? https://annuityguys.org/annuities-iul-indexed-universal-life-do-they-compare/ https://annuityguys.org/annuities-iul-indexed-universal-life-do-they-compare/#comments Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:34:49 +0000 http://annuityguys.org/?p=5318 What are the differences between a hybrid index annuity and an (IUL) index universal life policy? Wow! Steve, we thought we were about the only ones who ever discussed this. Great question! The answer can typically be found by beginning with the end objective. In other words, what is the end goal for these dollars and when do you […]

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What are the differences between a hybrid index annuity and an (IUL) index universal life policy? Wow! Steve, we thought we were about the only ones who ever discussed this. Great question! The answer can typically be found by beginning with the end objective. In other words, what is the end goal for these dollars and when do you need them?

Be aware that:

  •  Cap rates on IUL policies are about 3 to 5 times higher than those on index annuities;
  •  There are IUL policies which allow you to add a rider that will **guarantee lifetime income;
  •  IUL policies if configured properly can generate a tax-free income stream;
  •  An IUL may NOT be the right choice for your **guaranteed lifetime income

Dick and Eric discuss the differences between index annuities and index life insurance; both have become increasingly popular for retirement planning.

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**Guarantees, including optional benefits, are backed by the claims-paying ability of the issuer, and may contain limitations, including surrender charges, which may affect policy values. During this segment, Dick and Eric are referring to Fixed Annuities unless otherwise specified.

Indexed Universal Life Insurance Policies: The Perfect Option for Professionals and Business Owners

by Timothy R. Fussell

For a professional such as a doctor, attorney or CPA, the Indexed Universal Life policy is perfect for your retirement needs. Often as a professional, you operate as a P.A. being taxed as a sole proprietor, an S Corporation or a C Corporation, and under the tax codes you are limited to retirement account choices. The SEP IRA, Solo-401k or the UNI-401k, all allow you to save on a tax-deferred basis; but the maximum contribution limit is still the same $49,000.00.

Now let’s explore the IUL (indexed universal life) and why it is a better choice. As a professional of these types, your income level is much higher than average, so you max out your contribution very early in the year. With the IUL, there is no limit on how much money you can contribute—the money still grows tax-deferred, but with a several advantages.

Now comes the great part! In the event of a business need, the money in your tax-deferred accumulation account can be used, through interest-free loans, for the purchase of new equipment, to expand the practice, or just to carry you through a tough time. At retirement the money is paid to you in the form of tax-free loans against your account value. The income would be a lifetime income with of loss in a down market, and at the end of the income, your death, the face amount of the life insurance policy would still go to your heirs as a tax-free death benefit. The tax-free death benefit would, at any time, be the security to your family that their lifestyle would continue in the same manner to which they had become accustomed—a **guarantee the retirement account cannot promise. If, through a consultation with your insurance professional, it is determined that your life insurance needs exceed the desired amount of contribution in the IUL, a term life insurance policy can be added to meet your life insurance needs at a lower cost.

A business owner has many of the same needs but also faces many different challenges. The IUL is even more exciting in these cases. All of the benefits listed above still apply to the business owner, but if you are an S Corporation, you could have the option of making the premium contributions as a draw against the profits of the corporation and avoid the self-employment tax/social security tax, which could add to the benefits of the IUL.  That alone is a 13.3% tax savings!

To a business owner with a partner or partners, another issue is presented that makes an IUL a perfect choice. Should a partner/partners die, you would have the need for a Buy-Sell Agreement to determine the value of the buy-out of the deceased partner/partners. The best way to fund the buy-sell agreement is through life insurance policies. The buy-sell agreement would either be a cross purchase buy-sell or a stock purchase buy-sell. These differ based on your corporate structure. Your insurance professional should have a working knowledge of the two types of agreements and work with your CPA and attorney to make sure they are set up correctly. [Read more…]

Annuity Guys® Video Transcript:

Eric: Today, we’re examining indexed universal life and how it would compare to perhaps a hybrid annuity or annuities in general.

Dick: Right. First of all, let’s say, “Thank you,” Eric, to Steve.

Eric: Steve up in Wisconsin for submitting his question. Please continue to submit your questions, and we’ll examine them as the weeks go on. So for those of you that submitted questions.

Dick: We’ve got some already.

Eric: We’ve got some in the hopper, and those of you that have questions, keep them coming.

Dick: Today, in comparing indexed universal life and it’s also called equity indexed universal life or EIUL, but the more technical, correct term would be IUL, very safety-oriented product. It’s a life insurance product and there are a lot of good comparisons we can do with that and annuities, so why don’t we just start off talking about the life insurance part, the IUL.

Eric: We don’t talk about life insurance too much here, so let’s talk about one, why someone would even compare in the sense of I’m going to think of it in terms of, if I’m not going to select an annuity for retirement income would I select an equity or in this case, an indexed universal life policy.

Dick: Or if I was looking at growth compared to… Well, I’m just saying if I was comparing the two for growth. Okay, maybe I’m getting– go ahead.

Eric: You’re good at jumping ahead.

Dick: Jumping ahead of you.

Eric: Darn it. So what we want is trying to grow the policy to the largest amount, so that we can use it for a retirement supplement. Because, really here we are talking about the living benefits of the IUL, in this case, being able to use it as a supplement for retirement. Now what it has is the ability to have a double digit cap compared to with the low, single digit caps, of today on the annuity world or on the hybrid annuity.

Dick: And that’s large Eric, because when we look at the caps on most annuities, the fixed index annuities which are referred to as the hybrid annuity, the caps are down below 5.0%. Some substantially down in the 2.0-2.5-3.0% range, so when we start talking about the IUL, now we’re looking at 10-12-15% caps, even.

Eric: Right, so we have growth potential.

Dick: Potential, right.

Eric: Because here we’re talking about index games, there is not that **guaranteed rollup side. So on the hybrid annuity side you’ve got those income riders that have some of those **guarantees.

Dick: Contractual **guarantees for the future income.

Eric: So that is the one comparison on the caps side. Now what are we going to use for withdrawals on the life insurance side? How are we going to get money out of this?

Dick: Well, if we take actual withdrawals, we’re going to pay taxes.

Eric: Taxes?

Dick: So we don’t want to take withdrawals.

Eric: Well, then why would we even consider this?

Dick: And when we compare it with an annuity, when you take withdrawals out of an annuity, you pay taxes. But there is a really nice aspect to the IUL, and that is you can borrow out of it, and it is just like the old, traditional whole life policies you can borrow out of it and not pay taxes on it and IRS has allowed that. On borrowed money, any time you borrow money from a bank or anywhere, there is no tax paid on borrowed money.

Eric: Now do I have to pay this money back?

Dick: Actually, technically you do.

Eric: But when do you have to pay it back?

Dick: Through your death benefit.

Eric: And that’s the key element here. It’s really part of the death benefit and that’s what makes it, basically you’re going to pay it off at some point in time.

Dick: Right.

Eric: Those dollars that you’ve accrued are going to get paid back at the time, when you’re gone basically, as that death benefit is disbursed.

Dick: Right. One of the things that I want to bring out is that, if you want to use the IUL folks, you cannot use your qualified funds or your IRA money, unless you’re willing to just go ahead and pay the tax on it and move it over. Then you have to do a real analysis on how that might…

Eric: Just as a reminder neither of us are accountants nor tax professionals so we would advise you to consult your tax professional when it comes.

Dick: Although, we work with this every day and constantly talk about the taxes.

Eric: So now is the government going to come in and take my tax benefit away?

Dick: Well, that is a question we are frequently asked. I am asked that on The Raw, I’m asked that on life insurance or life insurance that’s being used in more of a retirement account type situation, and the answer to that is, it can happen. It could happen. However, if we go back and look at other times where Congress has stepped in or the government…

Eric: Screwed us?

Dick: … took advantage of us? Typically, they have grandfathered us, so that if we are in a situation where, in good faith…

Eric: Great grandfather’s covered, I get screwed.

Dick: So if we operated in good faith and set this up, and did it under the current tax provisions and laws and by the way, this is the IRC, Internal Revenue Code 7702 provision same type of thing that the IRC 401k, same area that comes from, it’s the 7702. So if you see the 7702 Plan that’s what they’re talking about.

Eric: He wants to be an accountant.

Dick: It’s very legitimate, it’s very real and it works and a lot of professional people use this, because they can put large amounts of money in. They keep their principal safe. They lock in their gains. They’ve got annual reset. There are some wonderful things about it, but Eric, who’s it going to work best for and at what stage?

Eric: You’ve got to be in your accumulation stage it’s probably the easiest way. So young professionals perhaps, I’ve heard it called a Big Boy Roth, because you can dump oodles and oodles of money into it and let it grow. There is not a limitation to the contribution amount. Now they have to be dialed in the right way and that’s one of the things that…

Dick: A little secret.

Eric: Yeah, strategy wise, usually you have the smallest amount of death benefit that you can have on life insurance.

Dick: Which means you pay the least amount for insurance and the agent makes the least amount on…

Eric: … commission. So you can see how there could be a confliction amongst the person that might be trying to talk to you about this, so usually we see only larger clients.

Dick: I like that word, though, Eric, confliction

Eric: Confliction. I’ve got an ointment that takes care of that.

Dick: Let’s trademark that.

Eric: So yes when your conflicted agent comes in and says…

Dick: Yes, we need to make sure you’ve got plenty of life insurance. Let’s not go too far on this, because there are times when a lot of life insurance is good for heirs and different things. But the way to make an IUL really work well, and again back that original question I had posed and that was, what stage, and I am just going to go ahead and answer it.

Eric: Say 15 to 20 years.

Dick: Yeah, 40 to 50-years-old, that you can really let it sit.

Eric: You’re 15 to 20 years from retirement. You have to have at least that amount of time really, for it to really function well and that’s the key, I think. Because at that point in time, it starts to get the extra dividends, the extra pieces, the extra credits that can make it really hum. Then you can have a rider on there that has a loan provision for life, so you can treat it very much like an annuity, but you have to have the forethought to have done these 15-20 years before retirement.

Dick: Correct.

Eric: So if they haven’t done that, income **guarantee-wise.

Dick: It’s really based more on potential. Yes, now let’s talk briefly, because this is a long video, let’s talk briefly about the annuity and why the annuity would have certain aspects…

Eric: Advantages?

Dick: … and advantages over the IUL, because the IUL is pretty cool the way it works.

Eric: They’re very cool. I love them. I would say **guarantees though, especially **guaranteed lifetime income, for someone that’s nearing or close to retirement is the key. I don’t want to say it’s the singular piece, but it is the first and foremost.

Dick: Because with the IUL I have to have potential for growth, I have the potential for growth, and I have to get the growth through that potential, but with the annuity I have a contractual **guarantee.

Eric: Yes, and that’s the key. We’ve talked about the hybrid aspect, you also have other annuities such as immediate annuities, where you’re going to have payouts of your principal plus, **guaranteed for life. Now the insurance aspect without a rider, you could actually run out of basically, enough account value, because you have to keep the insurance in place long enough to die, because if you don’t die with any insurance left, you haven’t paid off your loans.

Dick: And probably, Eric the best advice that we can give you, beyond the general information we’ve just given you is work with an adviser who really understands how to compare these two, and, maybe it’s not one or the other, maybe it’s some of both.

Eric: Yeah, could be. It depends on your end goal. What do you want these dollars to do for you? So work backwards and work with an expert.

Dick: Steve, thank you for this question, and those of you out there who have questions, we’ve probably caused you in this video to have some more questions. Feel free to send those in to us and we look forward to answering them.

Eric: That’s right. As you can see, we’ll tackle just about any question as long, as it relates somewhat, to our annuities world. Thank you very much.

Dick: Thank you.

 

 

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